Ex Porsche Plonker
12-03-2014, 02:43 PM
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As if the rep of the 996 wasn't bad enough (NOT to those who understand of course) but now this guy from Porsche adds another nail in the coffin......not syaing he's not right about the turbo but it's the rest of the story that pisses me off.........
http://jalopnik.com/here-s-why-the-9...-ca-1665776219
http://jalopnik.com/here-s-why-the-9...-ca-1665776219
12-03-2014, 02:56 PM
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He says good things...
I think he's funny. Who else would imagine putting a prairie dog in a blender??
Originally Posted by Doug DeMuro
For those of you who aren't aware of the 996 model, allow me to explain: this was the 911 sold from 1999 to 2005. It's sleek, and it's fast, and it's fun to drive, and it's cheap to buy, and to most casual observers its styling is approximately identical to every other 911, which is to say: it looks like the kind of thing your dad might buy when he starts to lose his hair.
Originally Posted by Doug DeMuro
If IMS is done tell him to drive like hell and enjoy. I think if I weren't writing/needing something weird to write about, I would have an IMS-replaced 996 and I'd just drive it constantly.
12-03-2014, 03:15 PM
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Everything he said in the article is true. His IMS "hypothetical story" is exactly what happened to Cuda this weekend, so there isn't much to fault in the article. Is 996TT vastly superior to the regular 996? Yes. Is 996TT a phenomenal bargain due to association with 996 N/A? Yes.
If 996 N/A did not have the motor issues it has, and had a bulletproof "honda/toyota" motor, the value of the cars would be 2X of what it is today.
To begin, let's address that engine issue. What I'm referring to here is the "intermediate shaft," also known as the "IMS," which is a famous late-1990s and early-2000s Porsche problem where you'd be driving along one day, top down, sun out, birds chirping, wind in your hair, and all of a sudden your engine would make noises like you just stuck a prairie dog down a blender. So you'd get out to check the situation, and you'd have your car towed into a mechanic, and you'd discover that your engine is now trash, but would you like to replace it for $20,000?
If 996 N/A did not have the motor issues it has, and had a bulletproof "honda/toyota" motor, the value of the cars would be 2X of what it is today.
To begin, let's address that engine issue. What I'm referring to here is the "intermediate shaft," also known as the "IMS," which is a famous late-1990s and early-2000s Porsche problem where you'd be driving along one day, top down, sun out, birds chirping, wind in your hair, and all of a sudden your engine would make noises like you just stuck a prairie dog down a blender. So you'd get out to check the situation, and you'd have your car towed into a mechanic, and you'd discover that your engine is now trash, but would you like to replace it for $20,000?
12-03-2014, 04:08 PM
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Everything he said in the article is true. His IMS "hypothetical story" is exactly what happened to Cuda this weekend, so there isn't much to fault in the article.
To begin, let's address that engine issue. What I'm referring to here is the "intermediate shaft," also known as the "IMS," which is a famous late-1990s and early-2000s Porsche problem where you'd be driving along one day, top down, sun out, birds chirping, wind in your hair, and all of a sudden your engine would make noises like you just stuck a prairie dog down a blender. So you'd get out to check the situation, and you'd have your car towed into a mechanic, and you'd discover that your engine is now trash, but would you like to replace it for $20,000?
To begin, let's address that engine issue. What I'm referring to here is the "intermediate shaft," also known as the "IMS," which is a famous late-1990s and early-2000s Porsche problem where you'd be driving along one day, top down, sun out, birds chirping, wind in your hair, and all of a sudden your engine would make noises like you just stuck a prairie dog down a blender. So you'd get out to check the situation, and you'd have your car towed into a mechanic, and you'd discover that your engine is now trash, but would you like to replace it for $20,000?
Re-read that thread if you need to.
12-03-2014, 04:47 PM
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He, as a one-time Porsche employee, COULD have mentioned that the IMS problems, although real, are quite small in number relative to the total volume of cars produced and still surviving, untouched!
He COULD have mentioned that this was the car that saved Porshce's ***.
He could have provided genuine support to a great car but no, he lovs the turbo but nothing positive about the rest of the breed...........turd!
He COULD have mentioned that this was the car that saved Porshce's ***.
He could have provided genuine support to a great car but no, he lovs the turbo but nothing positive about the rest of the breed...........turd!
12-03-2014, 06:13 PM
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I was just wondering, everyone is praising the turbo and GT3 and all other metzger engine models
but my car (996C2 1998) is 380 000km vehicle, and its engine suffered the catastrofical damage, but that wasnt the IMS that killed it, but a spun bearing,
so maybe the reality isn't SO bad after all, and doesnt the turbo have rod bearings? - sure it does and they also wear away, maybe turbo's lubrication system is better and they last longer, but in the end they WILL spin as well, ok at what mileage, that is a different question, but that is inevitable. (unless you are prepared for a full engine servicing, to give it a second life)
I assume, only assume, that most of the engine failiours are due to improper servicing (those long oil change periods) and total neglect of the car, not looking after oil level that leads to oil starvation and these damages as well. not trying to offend anyone here, but speaking about overall car public.
but my car (996C2 1998) is 380 000km vehicle, and its engine suffered the catastrofical damage, but that wasnt the IMS that killed it, but a spun bearing,
so maybe the reality isn't SO bad after all, and doesnt the turbo have rod bearings? - sure it does and they also wear away, maybe turbo's lubrication system is better and they last longer, but in the end they WILL spin as well, ok at what mileage, that is a different question, but that is inevitable. (unless you are prepared for a full engine servicing, to give it a second life)
I assume, only assume, that most of the engine failiours are due to improper servicing (those long oil change periods) and total neglect of the car, not looking after oil level that leads to oil starvation and these damages as well. not trying to offend anyone here, but speaking about overall car public.