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tesla is where porsche is going. i'm predicting a hybrid gas/electric panamera within the next 5 years.
many of us who drive porsches should drive a tesla. they are a lot of fun.
i love scaring the in-laws when we all go out to dinner. every on-ramp is a drag race. acceleration is instant, more accessible than my turbo.
many of us who drive porsches should drive a tesla. they are a lot of fun.
i love scaring the in-laws when we all go out to dinner. every on-ramp is a drag race. acceleration is instant, more accessible than my turbo.
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I test drove the Tesla earlier this year. Wife was really interested in getting one to replace her Cayenne S. But, the range is the only thing that is preventing us to get one. It is a good car for daily commuting car, but forget about road trips. We thought that's a lot of $$ for a car that will be just used for driving around town.
But, I loved the instant torque and acceleration! It was just amazing.
But, I loved the instant torque and acceleration! It was just amazing.
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I test drove the Tesla earlier this year. Wife was really interested in getting one to replace her Cayenne S. But, the range is the only thing that is preventing us to get one. It is a good car for daily commuting car, but forget about road trips. We thought that's a lot of $$ for a car that will be just used for driving around town.
But, I loved the instant torque and acceleration! It was just amazing.
But, I loved the instant torque and acceleration! It was just amazing.
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I think it's more likely that they'll be saying "do you remember when they were strip-mining entire countries to get enough lithium for those "environmentally friendly" cars?"
I don't know what the future of the car holds, but a dollar says it won't include hundreds of pounds of toxic battery packs...
I don't know what the future of the car holds, but a dollar says it won't include hundreds of pounds of toxic battery packs...
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Electric motors generate their max torque at speed 0, right at start up so they can do 0-60 fast. It's physics. To make the car go 190mph and fast 0-60 you need a gearbox and enough power generated by burning fuel. If the Tesla goes at 190mph, it may have arange of 5minutes.
this i was just about to post similar. Electric Motors have a essentially a limitless low RPM torque band that makes launch killer...it is purely physics....this is nothing new, tesla is just the first company that seems to be doing it in a car the right way.
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The Tesla Roadster does the 0-60mph in 3.7 seconds. The interesting part is that it does it without any drama. No need to rev the engine, drop the clutch, switch gears etc. With the traction control engaged it doesn't even feel like the car is working particularly hard.
But the top speed is only 125mph and they don't indicate what the range is at that speed. A quick google resulted in some predictions that it would last 20-40 minutes at that speed (ie ~60 miles) which isn't good but better then I had expected.
The roadster also had a faster time then the 996 GT3 RS on the Top Gear track despite the fact that the show was very negative on Tesla.
Clearly the battery technology today is the limiting factor and it has to improve dramatically (both in performance and price) before electric cars can hit high volume. But if that happens I don't think it will mean the end of the fun driving or sports cars. Instant torque is a lot of fun...
But the top speed is only 125mph and they don't indicate what the range is at that speed. A quick google resulted in some predictions that it would last 20-40 minutes at that speed (ie ~60 miles) which isn't good but better then I had expected.
The roadster also had a faster time then the 996 GT3 RS on the Top Gear track despite the fact that the show was very negative on Tesla.
Clearly the battery technology today is the limiting factor and it has to improve dramatically (both in performance and price) before electric cars can hit high volume. But if that happens I don't think it will mean the end of the fun driving or sports cars. Instant torque is a lot of fun...
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Hope that electric car technology improves, and prices fall, so that EVs take many sales from conventional internal combustion vehicles.
If this occurs, the world's remaining petroleum will last even longer, which is good news if you like gasoline-powered cars.
If this occurs, the world's remaining petroleum will last even longer, which is good news if you like gasoline-powered cars.
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I find it hard to believe that some people fear the range limitations of only 260 miles or so - but I'm someone who has a Nissan Leaf that only gets about 80 miles to a charge! Yes, we have a second vehicle that we use for long trips, and somehow I'm guessing those complaining about range also won't have the Tesla as the only car in the family.
If you are in an extreme rush to get somewhere 500 miles away, it would stink to have to wait 30 minutes to charge up at a Tesla super charger. How often does this happen? How many trips do you take a month (year even) where you'd drive more than 260 miles in a day? Keep in mind that you can plug the car into a standard 110 outlet overnight to recharge as well... I don't really see how having to stop for a moment and enjoy a coffee while you top-up the battery for free at a supercharger would be a pain.
I believe owning an electric car (especially a Tesla) would only be an inconvenience about 1% or less of the time. There are many inconveniences with owning a gas powered vehicle, but we're used to them. We don't think about it when we have to change the oil, perform all sorts of other maintenance, have to go find a gas station etc. Those are things you don't even think about as an inconvenience - it's normal. Electric cars eliminate these things completely - you just drive home and plug in... well, you still have to rotate the tires.
It may be hard to wrap your mind about the electric car ownership experience until you actually drive one, but once you do, you won't believe how amazing it is.
If you are in an extreme rush to get somewhere 500 miles away, it would stink to have to wait 30 minutes to charge up at a Tesla super charger. How often does this happen? How many trips do you take a month (year even) where you'd drive more than 260 miles in a day? Keep in mind that you can plug the car into a standard 110 outlet overnight to recharge as well... I don't really see how having to stop for a moment and enjoy a coffee while you top-up the battery for free at a supercharger would be a pain.
I believe owning an electric car (especially a Tesla) would only be an inconvenience about 1% or less of the time. There are many inconveniences with owning a gas powered vehicle, but we're used to them. We don't think about it when we have to change the oil, perform all sorts of other maintenance, have to go find a gas station etc. Those are things you don't even think about as an inconvenience - it's normal. Electric cars eliminate these things completely - you just drive home and plug in... well, you still have to rotate the tires.
It may be hard to wrap your mind about the electric car ownership experience until you actually drive one, but once you do, you won't believe how amazing it is.
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I miss the engine sound far too much to ever own an electric car. For me, that's part of the love of the gas engine and the driving experience...
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No reason why Tesla couldn't also add a perfect rendition of all the combustion engine sound artifacts back in if they wanted to, though I just don't think it would be in Tesla's DNA.
I have an early reservation number on a Model X... Out of all the issues presented here, there is really only one that might stop me from moving forward with it as an alternative SUV. Not lack of exhaust note, or range, or top speed, or driving experience which for me are non-issues. Only cost. Get it down to the $55K-$75K range and it would be a slam-dunk. At $100K+ pricing, I'll probably keep the Q5, the Cayman S, several motorcycles, and have enough change for a long vacation somewhere exotic.