170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?
#1
170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?
In July I bought an SSI maintained 951 to take to the track and over the past 6 months had the car gone completely over and everything repaired/replaced/upgraded (list below) and the interior deleted.
$32k later and circumstances have changed, no track, need $, and need rear seats.
After having put so many resources into the aforementioned 951 I don't want to sell it (at 170k I know I'd lose $) but having noticed the prices of 996's now well under $20k (1st Gen) and around $30k (Gen 2) I'm wondering if a trade (hopefully with $ in the case of a Gen 1) is something reasonable to pursue or should I instead be thinking in terms of just putting the non-racing front & rear seats back in & cutting my losses ... thoughts from the 996 owners? I'd bought an '04 996 NA in '10 w/17k mi on it for $36 & it was a great car.
Here's the stuff that was replaced within the past 6 years/30k miles:
(in descending order of date)
Me ...
New battery
Radiator flush
Radiator plug
Replace right door seal
Replace Right window seal
Tighten e-brake
Waterproof cover
Locking lugnuts
Syracuse ...
Vitesse Turbo Stage 3R: "At 15psi boost, the stage-III is rated at 310-330rwhp (rear wheel horsepower). For every 1 psi increase
in boost, we expect an increase of 12-15rwhp.", Programmable to any setting with included software, On the fly switch between
two settings.
Interior delete
1/2 shaft kits
Exhaust welding
Fire extinguisher
Front strut brace
Go over entire car: replace worn hoses, clamps, etc
Headlight delete nose piece
High pressure fuel pump
Hood scoop
New oil pan
New Z-rated tires
Oil change
Oil intake breather with reducer
Power steering hose
Racing seats, seat brackets, seat slider
Repaint exterior
Repaint interior
Rollbar
Sunroof delete
Tune up
Vacuum line
Waste gate line
Rear wiper delete
SSI ...
Connecting Rod bearings - one
Engine or transaxle mount - Turbo - Both, Engine
Oil pan gasket
Power steering pump drive belt
Repack front wheel bearing
Climate control blower motor resister
Power steering hose - [Includes: Bleed system]
Rear hatch
Replace all hoses to crank case control line
Replace all hoses to idle control valve
A/C System - Complete Charge
Balance shaft bearing housing
Condensor
Control arm bushing [Includes: R&I lower control arm]
Door handle - Outer, Each
Front engine oil cooler behind bumper
Left & right swaybay bushings
Power steering pulley & belt
Reseal oil filter housing to block
Right tie rod assembly
Weld in left & right rad support & install radiator, Includes R&R of front bumper cover, header panel & intercooler, both front
head lights
Clutch master cylinder [Includes: Bleed system]
Clutch slave cylinder [Includes: Bleed system]
Cam tower gasket
Clutch master cylinder hose
Right brake light sensor
Trunk hatch switch
Gas tank filler neck cover
Shift lever & socket
Door wiring harness plugs
Exhaust manifold [Includes: replace gaskets]- Turbocharger
Left window switch
Wiper & washer switch
Connecting Rod bearings - all
Spark plug wire set
Clutch kit
Clutch release arm
Crankshaft oil seal - Turbo, standard trans - rear
Hood shocks
Machine flywheel
Hood latch release cable
Strut assembly
Driver side door stop
Hatch seal
Heater control flap drive motor
Rear hatch locks
Transaxle assembly
Camshaft housing - turbo
Crankshaft oil seal - - Turbo - Front
Cylinder head gasket set
Differential side seal
Disc rotor, rear both
Engine Seal Kit
Four wheel alignment adjustment
Horn assempbly -
Left & right balance shaft seals
Left & Right steering rack boots
Power mirros
Stabilizer bar bushing
Timing Belt
Timing Belt Tensioner
Water Pump
$32k later and circumstances have changed, no track, need $, and need rear seats.
After having put so many resources into the aforementioned 951 I don't want to sell it (at 170k I know I'd lose $) but having noticed the prices of 996's now well under $20k (1st Gen) and around $30k (Gen 2) I'm wondering if a trade (hopefully with $ in the case of a Gen 1) is something reasonable to pursue or should I instead be thinking in terms of just putting the non-racing front & rear seats back in & cutting my losses ... thoughts from the 996 owners? I'd bought an '04 996 NA in '10 w/17k mi on it for $36 & it was a great car.
Here's the stuff that was replaced within the past 6 years/30k miles:
(in descending order of date)
Me ...
New battery
Radiator flush
Radiator plug
Replace right door seal
Replace Right window seal
Tighten e-brake
Waterproof cover
Locking lugnuts
Syracuse ...
Vitesse Turbo Stage 3R: "At 15psi boost, the stage-III is rated at 310-330rwhp (rear wheel horsepower). For every 1 psi increase
in boost, we expect an increase of 12-15rwhp.", Programmable to any setting with included software, On the fly switch between
two settings.
Interior delete
1/2 shaft kits
Exhaust welding
Fire extinguisher
Front strut brace
Go over entire car: replace worn hoses, clamps, etc
Headlight delete nose piece
High pressure fuel pump
Hood scoop
New oil pan
New Z-rated tires
Oil change
Oil intake breather with reducer
Power steering hose
Racing seats, seat brackets, seat slider
Repaint exterior
Repaint interior
Rollbar
Sunroof delete
Tune up
Vacuum line
Waste gate line
Rear wiper delete
SSI ...
Connecting Rod bearings - one
Engine or transaxle mount - Turbo - Both, Engine
Oil pan gasket
Power steering pump drive belt
Repack front wheel bearing
Climate control blower motor resister
Power steering hose - [Includes: Bleed system]
Rear hatch
Replace all hoses to crank case control line
Replace all hoses to idle control valve
A/C System - Complete Charge
Balance shaft bearing housing
Condensor
Control arm bushing [Includes: R&I lower control arm]
Door handle - Outer, Each
Front engine oil cooler behind bumper
Left & right swaybay bushings
Power steering pulley & belt
Reseal oil filter housing to block
Right tie rod assembly
Weld in left & right rad support & install radiator, Includes R&R of front bumper cover, header panel & intercooler, both front
head lights
Clutch master cylinder [Includes: Bleed system]
Clutch slave cylinder [Includes: Bleed system]
Cam tower gasket
Clutch master cylinder hose
Right brake light sensor
Trunk hatch switch
Gas tank filler neck cover
Shift lever & socket
Door wiring harness plugs
Exhaust manifold [Includes: replace gaskets]- Turbocharger
Left window switch
Wiper & washer switch
Connecting Rod bearings - all
Spark plug wire set
Clutch kit
Clutch release arm
Crankshaft oil seal - Turbo, standard trans - rear
Hood shocks
Machine flywheel
Hood latch release cable
Strut assembly
Driver side door stop
Hatch seal
Heater control flap drive motor
Rear hatch locks
Transaxle assembly
Camshaft housing - turbo
Crankshaft oil seal - - Turbo - Front
Cylinder head gasket set
Differential side seal
Disc rotor, rear both
Engine Seal Kit
Four wheel alignment adjustment
Horn assempbly -
Left & right balance shaft seals
Left & Right steering rack boots
Power mirros
Stabilizer bar bushing
Timing Belt
Timing Belt Tensioner
Water Pump
#3
Drifting
Put the interior back together and keep her. Things may change for you in the future and you may regret it considering all the hard work and time invested. She is a beautiful 951
#4
In a couple of years, and under some different circumstances, I would consider this deal. So, you're not crazy but the odds of finding the right person are not likely good. But in my experience, the guys who got the best deals on Porsches always had a bit if luck on their side. Hard work can't always overcome good timing.
So good luck to you.
So good luck to you.
#7
Rennlist Member
Nicely built high mileage 951s are $10k all day long. You can't find a decent 996 for that. Nice car but with a color change, mods, and no interior it's going to be a tough sell or trade. I would suggest reinstalling the interior and making it what you need, the back seats of a 951 are just as good as a 996 and the hatchback is more practical.