NY Inspection - 200 Cell Cats
11-01-2013, 09:45 PM
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
NY Inspection - 200 Cell Cats
Hi there,
I recently installed new Fabspeed 200 cell cats (good stuff btw). New York recently adopted an inspection similar to California - there needs to be a CARB sticker on the cats to pass inspection. While this law went into effect this summer, the DMV site says that the law won't be enforced until Jan 1.
Has anyone had recent experience with emissions inspection in NY with aftermarket cats? Even though the law gives us a grace period until next year, I imagine some shops/dealers won't know about that. I'd love to know of a good place to take the car for inspection that will "play ball". Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks
I recently installed new Fabspeed 200 cell cats (good stuff btw). New York recently adopted an inspection similar to California - there needs to be a CARB sticker on the cats to pass inspection. While this law went into effect this summer, the DMV site says that the law won't be enforced until Jan 1.
Has anyone had recent experience with emissions inspection in NY with aftermarket cats? Even though the law gives us a grace period until next year, I imagine some shops/dealers won't know about that. I'd love to know of a good place to take the car for inspection that will "play ball". Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks
11-02-2013, 07:59 PM
#5
Former Vendor
Scott, The CARB label placed on exhaust components denotes that the manufacturer has certified their equipment to meet the california air resources board standards as set forth in their latest efforts to meet the 86 grams of carbon dioxide released per megajoule of energy produced by the year 2020.
The Laws only apply to cars that are 8 years old or older and is directed at Aftermarket Equipment only (OEM replacement are not effected... already need to meet standard):
A new After Market Catalytic Converter may be installed when the vehicle is beyond its warranty period and a legitimate need for replacement has been established and documented. Most vehicles in New York State are covered under the federal emissions warranty of 8 years or 80,000 miles.
Also, the NYS law has a stipulation as follows: "The inspector may give you an inspection sticker anyway, without replacing the converter, but only if the cost of the exhaust repair parts and labor bill would total more than $500. In these cases, the converter would still have to be fixed before your next inspection comes due or the car will fail.
Further: Anything older the 1993 is not effected by the CARB rules.
Hope this helps.
The Laws only apply to cars that are 8 years old or older and is directed at Aftermarket Equipment only (OEM replacement are not effected... already need to meet standard):
A new After Market Catalytic Converter may be installed when the vehicle is beyond its warranty period and a legitimate need for replacement has been established and documented. Most vehicles in New York State are covered under the federal emissions warranty of 8 years or 80,000 miles.
Also, the NYS law has a stipulation as follows: "The inspector may give you an inspection sticker anyway, without replacing the converter, but only if the cost of the exhaust repair parts and labor bill would total more than $500. In these cases, the converter would still have to be fixed before your next inspection comes due or the car will fail.
Further: Anything older the 1993 is not effected by the CARB rules.
Hope this helps.
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11-04-2013, 10:07 AM
#8
Instructor
The car only needs a CARB approved unit if the emissions specification from the factory is "CARB" or "50 State". I would bet that your emissions is 49 state and therefore an EPA converter is acceptable. Check the black emissions tag under the engine cover lid.
11-04-2013, 11:36 AM
#9
This sounds like a sticker that is going to be on Ebay soon. NY inspections are an effing joke anyway, I should know I did a million of them when they were $3.00 each and we pulled wheels. They don't check a lot of crucial things but they can fail you for wiper blades that have no tears, it's simply a judgement call, this is why it's good to know the shop doing the inspection. Other shops, will scrape the sticker first so if they find a point of failure you are basically screwed. After you leave the shop you drive on the highway with cars that obviously are unsafe and would fail inspection but they all have stickers because buying illegal stickers is a NY cottage industry.
11-04-2013, 02:15 PM
#10
^^^ That's Bloomberg for ya. He's just bitter that the super-size soda law failed and is now looking at any and all other avenues to generate revenue and make life miserable. 
11-05-2013, 01:53 PM
#12
Instructor
Thread Starter
terbi - you mentioned one of the key things I was looking for: "it's good to know the shop doing the inspection". I usually have work done in either NJ or CT, my only NY state experience is at Manhattan Motorcars. Can anyone here recommend a shop to do the inspection?
11-05-2013, 02:36 PM
#13
It sounds like you are looking near the city, I have no knowledge of that area of NY, except to say Hoffman in CT has been selling Porsche cars since I bought my first. The thing is MJ, if you know your car to be mechanically sound then why go dealer for inspection? You don't need any special knowledge specific to car brand to do a state inspect, find a trusted indy. Now if you want to come upstate, I can route you to many, my dad had a shop there for forty years.
11-05-2013, 02:42 PM
#14
Rennlist Member
Who's to say that the shop is even going to know enough about your car to know your cats aren't factory? Factory parts don't have a CARB sticker. If you pass the sniffer test, it's doubtful they'll even notice the aftermarket cats.