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Old 05-19-2013, 11:07 PM
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Default Looking for 996 magazine article/issues

I would love to buy copy's of magazines which have articles
on 2001 996's ( not turbos)
Any direction on which magazines and date if publication ?
Not interested in guides or books
Old 05-20-2013, 12:42 AM
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Excellence would be your best bet but articles on 2001's will be rare. Lots of stuff for the
02 due to the changes for that year...
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There are lots of articles online now. For example, do a search for "2001 911 [insert name of publications here]" and you will come up with some decent results.

Just check the date and go to eBay to see if anyone is selling the issue. Good luck!

-Eric
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Peter Egan did the first drive for R&T of the 996.2

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...he-911-carrera
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This one is interesting
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...e-911-996-3-4/
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Originally Posted by rpm's S2
Peter Egan did the first drive for R&T of the 996.2

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...he-911-carrera
That article was for 2002 model
Surly there was a introduction
to the 01' article ?
Old 05-20-2013, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fpb111
That a online HATER article about 996 , what's your point ?
Old 05-20-2013, 11:48 PM
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Search the Euro mags such as EVO, Autocar, Car, as well as the Porsche specific mags. LOTS of articles out there, this was Porsche expansion in prime time.
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Originally Posted by Zanzibar Red 996
That article was for 2002 model
Surly there was a introduction
to the 01' article ?
Probably not. Reviews are usually written for new or substantially revised cars. As such there probably are not many '01 articles, if any. To find reviews of the 996.1 you might search in 1998-99 when the model first appeared in the US, or perhaps even 1997 as it was released as a '98 model in Europe.
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The best Exc-mag article was the one where all the IMSB, oil type, weight, myths were exposed. This article vindicated Jake and confirmed everything hes been telling us.


Another opinion here: Entertaining but unfortunately partially true.
While waiting for his $75,000 Porsche to experience a $15,000 engine failure, the 911 owner could at least fail to enjoy the most dismal, fragile interior ever seen in a production Porsche. Buttons wore out, dashes cracked, radios committed suicide in new and interesting ways, and every single electrical component in the car seemed prone to intermittent, untraceable failure. Naturally, the fabulously low prices Porsche paid suppliers for the jumble of garbage components in a 996 were never reflected at the parts counter. The replacement cost for the “Litronic” headlamp assemblies is enough to make an NBA player weep. I saw brand-new 996s with cracked leather on the seats when the cars were still in dealerships. Make no mistake. Every possible corner was cut.
And some wonder why the prices have crashed?
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Originally Posted by KrazyK
The best Exc-mag article was the one where all the IMSB, oil type, weight, myths were exposed. This article vindicated Jake and confirmed everything hes been telling us.

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And some wonder why the prices have crashed?
From the same article on TTAC (and I am a Jack Baruth fan of sorts...)

If you had purchased two Porsches in a row — a 1998 Carrera 2S for $75,000 and a 1999 Carrera 2 for $75,000 — and put 50,000 miles on each, you would find that the 1998 car would command an easy $50K in PCA classifieds, but the 1999 would struggle to fetch $20K.
Seems a clear cut indictment of the 996, until you look at the simple economics of supply and demand. In 1997, the last full year of 993 production, Porsche built about 15,000 911s (1998 numbers are hard to figure as they include both 993 and 996 models). In 1999, the first year of exclusive 996 production, Porsche built 28,000 911s - an 87% increase!

When you add the 'cache' of the 993 being the last air-cooled Porsche, simply claiming that perceived quality explains the difference in current value is simplistic and misleading. It is a factor to be sure, but not the entire story, or even the core reason.
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The "truth about cars" article is foolish.

The author attacks the 996' engine and yet offers the following statement: "During those years, Porsche worked with its dealers to deny warranty claims, place blame on customers, withhold knowledge of fixes, and generally burn every last bit of goodwill they had built up over years of… um… previous engine failures in air-cooled cars."

So, the author acknowledges that the pre-996 cars had engine failures but derides only the 996 for its engine issues despite Porsche carrying over the 996' engine architecture into the 997 (further despite writing the article 5 years into the 997's life). Huh?

The author also seems to ignore that the 996 saved Porsche and outsold the car so coveted by its faithful that it almost bankrupted the company.

The interiors of the 993 and earlier 911s were austere at best. I understand criticisms of the 996' interior but to say it was far worse than what preceded it is like ignoring the ills of previous 911s as though they were without fault.

Is the 997 really holding its value much better than the 996, akin to a 993? The 993 was sold in somewhat limited numbers. It being (arguably) the best and last of its kind makes it iconic. With limited supply comes higher prices. The 996 and 997 were sold in larger volumes thus eroding some of the long term resale benefits from limited supply. The upside is that the increased sales kept Porsche in business.

Prices of the 996 haven't crashed. Have they followed the same path as the 993? No. Why do people care? Buy or don't buy. I bought my car for me not for the next owner.

-Eric
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There was a review of all the '01 variants in Excellence. They may still have back copies available.
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they do

Here you go:

http://www.excellence-mag.com/back-issues?page=9
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Originally Posted by Sue Esponte
The "truth about cars" article is foolish.

The author attacks the 996' engine and yet offers the following statement: "During those years, Porsche worked with its dealers to deny warranty claims, place blame on customers, withhold knowledge of fixes, and generally burn every last bit of goodwill they had built up over years of… um… previous engine failures in air-cooled cars."

So, the author acknowledges that the pre-996 cars had engine failures but derides only the 996 for its engine issues despite Porsche carrying over the 996' engine architecture into the 997 (further despite writing the article 5 years into the 997's life). Huh?

The author also seems to ignore that the 996 saved Porsche and outsold the car so coveted by its faithful that it almost bankrupted the company.

The interiors of the 993 and earlier 911s were austere at best. I understand criticisms of the 996' interior but to say it was far worse than what preceded it is like ignoring the ills of previous 911s as though they were without fault.

Is the 997 really holding its value much better than the 996, akin to a 993? The 993 was sold in somewhat limited numbers. It being (arguably) the best and last of its kind makes it iconic. With limited supply comes higher prices. The 996 and 997 were sold in larger volumes thus eroding some of the long term resale benefits from limited supply. The upside is that the increased sales kept Porsche in business.

Prices of the 996 haven't crashed. Have they followed the same path as the 993? No. Why do people care? Buy or don't buy. I bought my car for me not for the next owner.

-Eric
well stated and here's another point,
Anybody do a cross country road trip in a 993 ?
Drive 5,000 miles in a 996 and you don't need a chiropractor


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