Blown Engine 2002 3.6
05-13-2013, 01:59 PM
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Before anyone goes up in the air about my recent post, This maybe worth a read to all you Engine additive modders. http://pedrosgarage.com/Site_5/The_DME.html
05-13-2013, 06:25 PM
#34
Hey, Hurdi's back! 
Actually I agree with some of that about the owners blowing their engines (man, that sounds dirty). Epecially the guys who track a stock M96 then complain when it craters from the dreaded oil starvation issue. We all know the "other" M96 issues.
Actually I agree with some of that about the owners blowing their engines (man, that sounds dirty). Epecially the guys who track a stock M96 then complain when it craters from the dreaded oil starvation issue. We all know the "other" M96 issues.
05-13-2013, 07:09 PM
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Talked with shop:
They want to do a compression test and pull lifter covers to see if the heads are ok. All plugs look good. If heads are good will do rebuild, considering rebuild by "Intersport", Mclean VA. Engine never started after it stalled.
They want to do a compression test and pull lifter covers to see if the heads are ok. All plugs look good. If heads are good will do rebuild, considering rebuild by "Intersport", Mclean VA. Engine never started after it stalled.
05-13-2013, 09:43 PM
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I recommend much caution regarding either a salvage engine or a rebuild by anyone other than a real expert on these motors.
Your engine shouldn't be cranked over, let alone started. And economy measures don't work out very well with the M96 series. Whether the engine can be rebuilt or upgraded, disassembly for a full inspection is necessary. There are too many places inside for pieces of debris to hide and later (or earlier) be released into a partially explored motor after sufficient-appearing repairs to make it run.
Two years ago I had Jake Raby build a Performer 3.6 for my 2000 C2 for the track, and it is an awesome motor. Regarding your situation, I recently bought an '05 997 from Jake that initially came to his shop as a virtual rolling chassis because it was believed to have experienced a catastrophic IMS failure.
It fortunately hadn’t, but it was a close call. Jake was able to repair and upgrade the engine due to the lack of collateral damage, but that discovery only came with complete disassembly and inspection. The engine is back in the car and essentially stock except for a few reliability items like a 3-row LN bearing, billet oil pump shaft, etc.
As I found out, an essentially stock refreshing of an otherwise sound engine is a fraction of the cost of a new engine--if it is performed by an expert. Otherwise, I personally would walk away.
Given the expense, no one should have to go through this twice with the same engine. Be wary. I’d be making a call to Cleveland, GA before making any major investment in that engine.
Your engine shouldn't be cranked over, let alone started. And economy measures don't work out very well with the M96 series. Whether the engine can be rebuilt or upgraded, disassembly for a full inspection is necessary. There are too many places inside for pieces of debris to hide and later (or earlier) be released into a partially explored motor after sufficient-appearing repairs to make it run.
Two years ago I had Jake Raby build a Performer 3.6 for my 2000 C2 for the track, and it is an awesome motor. Regarding your situation, I recently bought an '05 997 from Jake that initially came to his shop as a virtual rolling chassis because it was believed to have experienced a catastrophic IMS failure.
It fortunately hadn’t, but it was a close call. Jake was able to repair and upgrade the engine due to the lack of collateral damage, but that discovery only came with complete disassembly and inspection. The engine is back in the car and essentially stock except for a few reliability items like a 3-row LN bearing, billet oil pump shaft, etc.
As I found out, an essentially stock refreshing of an otherwise sound engine is a fraction of the cost of a new engine--if it is performed by an expert. Otherwise, I personally would walk away.
Given the expense, no one should have to go through this twice with the same engine. Be wary. I’d be making a call to Cleveland, GA before making any major investment in that engine.
05-16-2013, 11:24 PM
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I am curious to hear the details as well, blown engine doesn't mean much.
As far as you don't have a hole in the engine case, it is usually rebuildable...hopefully.
If not... time for LS1 conversion ! That is certainly what I'd do.
As far as you don't have a hole in the engine case, it is usually rebuildable...hopefully.
If not... time for LS1 conversion ! That is certainly what I'd do.
05-18-2013, 01:38 PM
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I am curious what you think of Intersport. I am also in the area. Your car is very nice and worthly of repairing.
My 2002 C4 now has a 2008 M96 motor. Seems like the factory replacement prices were half four years ago.
My 2002 C4 now has a 2008 M96 motor. Seems like the factory replacement prices were half four years ago.
05-22-2013, 11:13 PM
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This will be my last post on Rennlist.com. I have been a member since 2006 when I go my first 911. The 2002 engine needs rebuilt. Ended up selling to Jake Raby, I am sure he will have here up in running in no time. Tried to back out of the deal before Jake came and picked her up, I was considering having the Flat6 3.8 upgrade, but he wouldn't let me back out off the deal. Sorry Jake. Maybe I'll buy it back someday, a lot of emotional attachement to her. Hopefully Jake will post what went wrong with the engine.
Well its been great owning the 911, and loved all the work I put into it. But I would say this is it for me and porsche, until retirement. Best of luck you all its been a great forum.
Chris
Well its been great owning the 911, and loved all the work I put into it. But I would say this is it for me and porsche, until retirement. Best of luck you all its been a great forum.
Chris
