LN bearing life
#31
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But that's it.....yours didn't and my project '99 996, that has 200K miles has a stock, double row bearing. I'm planning on changing it to the LN unit and wanted to know what to expect from it. If they are as robust as claimed above, this should be the last bearing this engine will ever need.
#32
Jake,
I am not trying to be confrontational but you don't seem to have answered the original question, how long does the bearing last, or what is the recommended replacement mileage?
My gearbox is out and I'm considering the LN but like the OP woul like a clear guide on its life
I am not trying to be confrontational but you don't seem to have answered the original question, how long does the bearing last, or what is the recommended replacement mileage?
My gearbox is out and I'm considering the LN but like the OP woul like a clear guide on its life
#33
So if someone say purchased a 99-01 996 and put in the LN dual row bearing that would be considered the "fix" for the IMS issue? I'm looking at 996's and although I prefer the 2002 plus headlights, I would prefer reliability over style.
#34
My original question is I put an LN bearing in car at 32k miles not about ready to do 60k and clutch so will have transmission / engine separated should I be thinking well might as well replace bearing again? I mean does not really make sense to put in a new LN bearing again down the road and have to consider again separating transmission / engine just for that.
#35
Great post. Looks like I will be fine with my new dual row LN IMS bearing fix.
Also, my dealer out here was very familiar with it and they recommend the fix to 996 owners when they have the clutch replaced. I have a good dealer though that treats me like gold. That is nice for a change.
Also, my dealer out here was very familiar with it and they recommend the fix to 996 owners when they have the clutch replaced. I have a good dealer though that treats me like gold. That is nice for a change.
#36
I have a 00 C2, like you, carcster88, with the last 4 VIN digits being ... 0220.
Do this mean that I have a dual-row IMS bearing as you originally had before your replacement?
My car has 140k kms on it but I know of someone with a 99 C4 whose IMSb blew his engine at 160k kms. These IMSb blow-outs are very erratic, indeed!
Martin
Do this mean that I have a dual-row IMS bearing as you originally had before your replacement?
My car has 140k kms on it but I know of someone with a 99 C4 whose IMSb blew his engine at 160k kms. These IMSb blow-outs are very erratic, indeed!
Martin
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I have a 00 C2, like you, carcster88, with the last 4 VIN digits being ... 0220.
Do this mean that I have a dual-row IMS bearing as you originally had before your replacement?
My car has 140k kms on it but I know of someone with a 99 C4 whose IMSb blew his engine at 160k kms. These IMSb blow-outs are very erratic, indeed!
Martin
Do this mean that I have a dual-row IMS bearing as you originally had before your replacement?
My car has 140k kms on it but I know of someone with a 99 C4 whose IMSb blew his engine at 160k kms. These IMSb blow-outs are very erratic, indeed!
Martin
#38
#39
My original question is I put an LN bearing in car at 32k miles not about ready to do 60k and clutch so will have transmission / engine separated should I be thinking well might as well replace bearing again? I mean does not really make sense to put in a new LN bearing again down the road and have to consider again separating transmission / engine just for that.
My personal opinion based on knowledge of engineering is that the greatest likelihood as to why a number of the small single-race LN bearings have failed comes down to incompetent installation protocols or what in medicine is referred-to as improper case selection, eg installing a new bearing in an engine with preexisting damage or debris.
That said, since you will be undertaking the labour anyway, it seems sensible to change the bearing, assuming whoever is doing the job is at least as competent as whomever installed the last one.
I'm in a slightly different boat, in that I had my clutch and the LN bearing done 9000 miles ago, which for me represents 1,5 years of (daily) driving. I've got 4,5 years remaining on my extended warranty, whereupon the bearing (and clutch) will have a total of only 36,000 miles. Terms of my warranty mandate I change oil every 5K miles or 6 months, which in my case works out to an oil service every 3K miles. So I'm not even thinking about touching the LN bearing until the warranty expires. If I should decide to keep the car after that point (it will be 12 years old by then) I'll revisit the issue.
There's only so much money I'd want to throw at that bearing, given that as the miles mount so does the possibility of one of the other catastrophic failure modes claiming the engine.
#41
I have a 00 C2, like you, carcster88, with the last 4 VIN digits being ... 0220.
Do this mean that I have a dual-row IMS bearing as you originally had before your replacement?
My car has 140k kms on it but I know of someone with a 99 C4 whose IMSb blew his engine at 160k kms. These IMSb blow-outs are very erratic, indeed!
Martin
Do this mean that I have a dual-row IMS bearing as you originally had before your replacement?
My car has 140k kms on it but I know of someone with a 99 C4 whose IMSb blew his engine at 160k kms. These IMSb blow-outs are very erratic, indeed!
Martin
#42
I have a 00 C2, like you, carcster88, with the last 4 VIN digits being ... 0220.
Do this mean that I have a dual-row IMS bearing as you originally had before your replacement?
My car has 140k kms on it but I know of someone with a 99 C4 whose IMSb blew his engine at 160k kms. These IMSb blow-outs are very erratic, indeed!
Martin
Do this mean that I have a dual-row IMS bearing as you originally had before your replacement?
My car has 140k kms on it but I know of someone with a 99 C4 whose IMSb blew his engine at 160k kms. These IMSb blow-outs are very erratic, indeed!
Martin
#43
I may be wrong, but I didn't think they went back and forth between two rows and one row. I thought the changeover was a mid-year event. IIRC, when I had my dual row replaced, the VIN was how LN could confirm the dual row was correct. The previous poster's VIN suggested his car was built prior to mine.
#44
I may be wrong, but I didn't think they went back and forth between two rows and one row. I thought the changeover was a mid-year event. IIRC, when I had my dual row replaced, the VIN was how LN could confirm the dual row was correct. The previous poster's VIN suggested his car was built prior to mine.
Last edited by street rod; 09-21-2012 at 09:57 PM. Reason: typo
#45
Common confusion, because it seems so counter-intuitive... the early M96s got dual row bearings, and Porsche switched from dual to single row, for some reason. Early cars, dual. Later cars, single.