Continental ExtremeContact DW Tires, anyone using them?
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I had the tires put on the car today and I cannot get over how quiet the car is now. I work for a dealer and had the front pads changed and the rear rotors and pads done today as well.
The tires are night and day compared to the CRAP KUMHO's that were on it.
The tires are night and day compared to the CRAP KUMHO's that were on it.
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Great news!
I found the DWs to be so quiet that I started obsessing over wind noise because there was nothing else to hear in the car - it was very odd.
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There is a difference in the top and second or 3rd tier suppliers, so it's worth sticking with the brands that work hard to innovate.
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I wish I understood what characteristics make a tire quiet. I learned the Porsche does not put directional tires on the cars when they are new so they can be rotated right to left and vice versa. I've read so much and cannot get 2 opinions that agree. The car is loud no matter what but the tire noise just makes it ridiculous. I'm not a new 911 owner so I know what to expect, I'm just trying to avoid another expensive tire mistake, I've made a few already and the P Zero's were the worst. After 5K miles the rears were so loud it sounded like a semi.
Putting Kumho's and Sumitomo on the car are like taking a really sexy girl to Kmart to buy lingerie. Been there with both of those brands and the quiet wears out even faster than the Pirelli's, and I don't drive hard at all. The Arizona heat wears the tires out even quicker. The pavement can get to over 150 degrees in the hot summer months.
Putting Kumho's and Sumitomo on the car are like taking a really sexy girl to Kmart to buy lingerie. Been there with both of those brands and the quiet wears out even faster than the Pirelli's, and I don't drive hard at all. The Arizona heat wears the tires out even quicker. The pavement can get to over 150 degrees in the hot summer months.
On a side note I have found that the Dunlop Sport Maxx GT's to be some of the more quiet tires I have run on my porsche.
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I replaced the fairly new Eagle F1s that came with my '04 Cab with a set of Conti DWSs. I did the rears first, then the fronts. Huge difference in noise, which is important as the car is my daily ride. Unfortunately I need to take calls in it from time to time.
I did notice that the grip overall went down slightly - most noticeably in the feel of the steering wheel. However - the car still stays stuck going around corners. The tires do not look as nice as the slab-sided F1s, but that's a minor consideration. I do not track the car, but when there are no other cars around, I push it hard on the twisties near my house.
I would be interested in a comparison between the DW and the DWS. I get absolutely no snow down here, so I'd have preferred the DW.
Over all - great tire for the money. I've also had very good experiences with Contis on the other cars I own.
I did notice that the grip overall went down slightly - most noticeably in the feel of the steering wheel. However - the car still stays stuck going around corners. The tires do not look as nice as the slab-sided F1s, but that's a minor consideration. I do not track the car, but when there are no other cars around, I push it hard on the twisties near my house.
I would be interested in a comparison between the DW and the DWS. I get absolutely no snow down here, so I'd have preferred the DW.
Over all - great tire for the money. I've also had very good experiences with Contis on the other cars I own.
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There will always be tire noise, but noise on tires is mostly a function of tread design. The more irregular they make the tread design, the more it generates white noise which is less discernible to the ear. More regular tread patterns make more noise.
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directional definitely is more noisy. they can generate a howling noise at highway speeds. this is hard to correct when you can't rotate side to side.
my friend switched from michelin pilot sport to DWS. he said it was much quieter. not fair to compare worn to new tires though.
i would go with DWS over DW. another tire to consider is the Bridgestone 960. Both are great tires.
my friend switched from michelin pilot sport to DWS. he said it was much quieter. not fair to compare worn to new tires though.
i would go with DWS over DW. another tire to consider is the Bridgestone 960. Both are great tires.
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I think the DW is a more sporty tire than the DWS, but everyone I know has been happy with both. It was recommended by Tire Rack over the DWS.
I did end up with some cording on inside of a rear tire...but my girl has a big butt and it happens. :-(
This was also before my new suspension as my original suspension sagged quite a bit under acceleration. I also had 1 DE and several AutoX on those tires...not just street driving. As soon as my free tires wear out..I'll go back to them (I kept the fronts).
I did end up with some cording on inside of a rear tire...but my girl has a big butt and it happens. :-(
This was also before my new suspension as my original suspension sagged quite a bit under acceleration. I also had 1 DE and several AutoX on those tires...not just street driving. As soon as my free tires wear out..I'll go back to them (I kept the fronts).
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The general consensus I came across when deciding on DW vs DWS would be one's priorities on what they were after.
Longer life, quiet, more comfort would be traits that DWS would be more suited for.
Ultimate handling, grip, better turn in and steering response would be DW's forte.
Now it would be hard to quantify or measure the two to see how much of a negligible difference any one of those attributes had the advantage over the other unless someone had both sets on the same car. I would be very curious of the outcome.
Longer life, quiet, more comfort would be traits that DWS would be more suited for.
Ultimate handling, grip, better turn in and steering response would be DW's forte.
Now it would be hard to quantify or measure the two to see how much of a negligible difference any one of those attributes had the advantage over the other unless someone had both sets on the same car. I would be very curious of the outcome.
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Alpine.... Hard to answer your question but ....Having Both Tires on two very different Porsche - Front engine RWD and Rear engine AWD, I would say the DW's are a bit quieter but that comes from actually having first put the DWS set on the 968 and after a few months (and winter coming ) I swapped the set of DWS to the C4. I felt the 968 was quiet and had good handling response with both... but a bit better ride with the DWs. Now the Handling judgement is comparmised by the fact that the DWS set is 225's in the front (205 for the DW's) and the C4 is on PSS-9 Coilovers - while the 968 is stock. Either way I will say they are a good quality tire at a great Price and the choice is more about the Weather/Climate you drive in.
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Is there a reason people are recommending an all season tire for a performance car in Arizona? I think that a proper summer performance tire would be more suitable.
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Thats what I mean, I have winter tires for the time between october first and june 1st. I have summer tires for the time between june 1st and october 1st, and a set of R compounds for track days. I buy tires for a specific purpose. I dont think All Seasons really have a place, especially on a performance car