New to Forum - Looking for IMS/Clutch Advice
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Hello Fellows,
I've been reading on this forum (as well as a few others) for about the past year since I bought my 996 but just never registered and posted anything...I think that probably classifies me as a lurker!![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Nevertheless, I have an 02' C2 that has had the original clutch/IMS up until last weekend/85K miles. I've known it was on it's way out feeling the heavier/higher release pedal for the past month or so, but it's not a daily driver...I did push it a little too hard this past weekend and finished off the clutch. However it's kind of bitter/sweet for me b/c I've been worrying about the IMS for a while now anyway...so this is just going to force me to address it.
Although never on Porsches, I used to be an L1 dealership mechanic by trade (now in the software industry), have also spent quite a bit of time racing, and built many engines (Primarily American V8's), Manual and Auto Trans, a lot of suspension work, and I even do some fabricaiton work as well...I spend most of my hobby time restoring cars from the American muscle and classic truck era. All this to say...I have a pretty well equipped shop to work in, including a lift....so I will be taking this project on myself. (My old man is a TV repair man with an awesome set of tools....I can fix it!
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I've searched and read a lot of threads (props to Shark Attack on his very imformative write-up), and from what I've learned I think I know about what all I'll be needing, but this is where I'd like to hear more from you guys....
- Clutch Kit (Disk, Plate, and Bearing)
- New Flywheel (opinions seems to be about 50/50 on going with stock vs LWFW, at this point I'm thinking to play it safe and just go stock, though).
- IMS Retro Fit (Most likely Flat-6, but I do see some others mentioned)
- RMS
- AOS (I've had a few white-smokey start-ups on occasion)
I wanted to see if you guys know of any good value kits available out there and/or if you can make recommendations where to buy most of this stuff? Someone mentioned an IMS/Clutch kit from Pelican Parts, but I don't see anything specific on their website...other than the stuff listed separately.
should probably add that my car isn't a track car, and it isn't driven daily either. Usually take it out on the weekends, and drive it to work once or twice a week...but I do live outside of the city limits, so it's several miles anytime I go anywhere away from home.
Since I'm a newbie here is a picture as well.....
![](http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/Rreemo/LeftSide4.jpg)
Lapis Blue with 18" Fikse Mach-V's (285's on the rear), H&R Springs, and I swapped the front bumper cover for the C4S/Turbo style (not trying to be a poser, I just like the blunted nose profile a lot more). The tint looks a little darker in the pic than it does in-person, but it's legal (35% on the front two and 20% on the rear three)....I live about 5 miles from the sun (North Texas), so tint is almost mandatory around here in the summer time.
I've been reading on this forum (as well as a few others) for about the past year since I bought my 996 but just never registered and posted anything...I think that probably classifies me as a lurker!
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Nevertheless, I have an 02' C2 that has had the original clutch/IMS up until last weekend/85K miles. I've known it was on it's way out feeling the heavier/higher release pedal for the past month or so, but it's not a daily driver...I did push it a little too hard this past weekend and finished off the clutch. However it's kind of bitter/sweet for me b/c I've been worrying about the IMS for a while now anyway...so this is just going to force me to address it.
Although never on Porsches, I used to be an L1 dealership mechanic by trade (now in the software industry), have also spent quite a bit of time racing, and built many engines (Primarily American V8's), Manual and Auto Trans, a lot of suspension work, and I even do some fabricaiton work as well...I spend most of my hobby time restoring cars from the American muscle and classic truck era. All this to say...I have a pretty well equipped shop to work in, including a lift....so I will be taking this project on myself. (My old man is a TV repair man with an awesome set of tools....I can fix it!
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I've searched and read a lot of threads (props to Shark Attack on his very imformative write-up), and from what I've learned I think I know about what all I'll be needing, but this is where I'd like to hear more from you guys....
- Clutch Kit (Disk, Plate, and Bearing)
- New Flywheel (opinions seems to be about 50/50 on going with stock vs LWFW, at this point I'm thinking to play it safe and just go stock, though).
- IMS Retro Fit (Most likely Flat-6, but I do see some others mentioned)
- RMS
- AOS (I've had a few white-smokey start-ups on occasion)
I wanted to see if you guys know of any good value kits available out there and/or if you can make recommendations where to buy most of this stuff? Someone mentioned an IMS/Clutch kit from Pelican Parts, but I don't see anything specific on their website...other than the stuff listed separately.
should probably add that my car isn't a track car, and it isn't driven daily either. Usually take it out on the weekends, and drive it to work once or twice a week...but I do live outside of the city limits, so it's several miles anytime I go anywhere away from home.
Since I'm a newbie here is a picture as well.....
![](http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/Rreemo/LeftSide4.jpg)
Lapis Blue with 18" Fikse Mach-V's (285's on the rear), H&R Springs, and I swapped the front bumper cover for the C4S/Turbo style (not trying to be a poser, I just like the blunted nose profile a lot more). The tint looks a little darker in the pic than it does in-person, but it's legal (35% on the front two and 20% on the rear three)....I live about 5 miles from the sun (North Texas), so tint is almost mandatory around here in the summer time.
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When I did mine I got the clutch kit from vertex,their brand was a sachs pressure plate and throwout bearing with a raybestos disc. I got the bearing,tool kit and rms from LN Engineering. The aos came from parts geek,was the cheapest I could find and came in Porsche packaging. I don't remember the prices exactly but did post them at some point when I did my bearing
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Welcome Rheemo. I've seen you on the Maverick group as well. We'll have to meet up one day.
I just had my IMS/Clutch Kit done. Used the LN Eng bearing and stock OEM everything else. Also had the RMS done but my AOS was clean so didn't mess with it. I do have an 04 with 43K, though. To Chsu74's point, the labor does not get you anything since you are in there for the clutch anyway. Had mine all done at RAC in Carrollton. They also did the oil change this round so maybe add oil and filter to your list.
I just had my IMS/Clutch Kit done. Used the LN Eng bearing and stock OEM everything else. Also had the RMS done but my AOS was clean so didn't mess with it. I do have an 04 with 43K, though. To Chsu74's point, the labor does not get you anything since you are in there for the clutch anyway. Had mine all done at RAC in Carrollton. They also did the oil change this round so maybe add oil and filter to your list.
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I've also got records from those being done not too terribly long before I bought it.
Thanks for the tips - I'll take a look at Vertex and parts geek, I was planning to go back with a Sachs clutch kit too. Is there any difference buying the IMS Retro from LNE or from Flat-6 Innovations? I emailed Jake this morning, got a pretty canned looking response about a clinic in April, and he did say that he would have someone contact me back about the parts I was needing. I don't think I'll need or be in a position to travel for a class on this...looks pretty straight forward with the right tools....but it certainly wouldn't hurt to have the piece of mind for good support going into it.
Thanks Barn!![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Thanks Jfin! I have been lurking on Maverick recently. Unfortunatley I attended an event with some friends last Saturday and got the clutch a little too hot...thing won't even hardly move under it's own power now...had to trailer it home.
...but I knew it was getting close, so no harm/no foul I suppose. Just gave me an excuse to take care of some stuff that I know needs my attention anyway.
Small world - my car had the PPI done over at RAC.
When I did mine I got the clutch kit from vertex,their brand was a sachs pressure plate and throwout bearing with a raybestos disc. I got the bearing,tool kit and rms from LN Engineering. The aos came from parts geek,was the cheapest I could find and came in Porsche packaging. I don't remember the prices exactly but did post them at some point when I did my bearing
Thanks Barn!
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Welcome Rheemo. I've seen you on the Maverick group as well. We'll have to meet up one day.
I just had my IMS/Clutch Kit done. Used the LN Eng bearing and stock OEM everything else. Also had the RMS done but my AOS was clean so didn't mess with it. I do have an 04 with 43K, though. To Chsu74's point, the labor does not get you anything since you are in there for the clutch anyway. Had mine all done at RAC in Carrollton. They also did the oil change this round so maybe add oil and filter to your list.
I just had my IMS/Clutch Kit done. Used the LN Eng bearing and stock OEM everything else. Also had the RMS done but my AOS was clean so didn't mess with it. I do have an 04 with 43K, though. To Chsu74's point, the labor does not get you anything since you are in there for the clutch anyway. Had mine all done at RAC in Carrollton. They also did the oil change this round so maybe add oil and filter to your list.
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Small world - my car had the PPI done over at RAC.
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welcome Rreemo. Sharp car; tint, wheels and stance. nothing wrong with changing the plain looking 996 front bumper to the C4S/Turbo bumper; seems you have your work cut out for getting the car back on the road.
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"the IMS Retro from LNE or from Flat-6 Innovations?"
They are the same kit
The Pelican kit uses the stock bearing supplier.
There is also a Casper Labs kit. See this thread:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...c-ims-bearing/
They are the same kit
The Pelican kit uses the stock bearing supplier.
There is also a Casper Labs kit. See this thread:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...c-ims-bearing/
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I'm not really too intimidated by it honestly...I'm planning that we'll have it ready to roar again over a weekend soon. We put a 496ci Ford Cammer together about a year ago and it's holding out fine at over 680hp....so I'm hopeful (optimistic) this won't be really any more complicated than that thing was (6' timing chain)
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I'll be sure to take a lot of pics and do a write up for you guys as I go through it as well.
"the IMS Retro from LNE or from Flat-6 Innovations?"
They are the same kit
The Pelican kit uses the stock bearing supplier.
There is also a Casper Labs kit. See this thread:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...c-ims-bearing/
They are the same kit
The Pelican kit uses the stock bearing supplier.
There is also a Casper Labs kit. See this thread:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...c-ims-bearing/
Again - thanks much for the support!
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