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Old 03-21-2012, 04:02 PM
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I will wave at any Pcar. even Cayenne's and panamera's if they show interest. I'll give the nod to any cool car regardless of age or marquee. I love the pricing dip of the 996, that how i got mine ;-)
Old 03-21-2012, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by morsini
Anytime and ya-right. Now I suppose your going to tell me you can buy one for 20k. Oh wait, you can!
What does cost have to do with anything?
Old 03-21-2012, 04:37 PM
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the world is full of haters. What can we say?
Old 03-21-2012, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RPMulli
What does cost have to do with anything?

Supply and demand.
Old 03-21-2012, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by morsini
Anytime and ya-right. Now I suppose your going to tell me you can buy one for 20k. Oh wait, you can!

So if you despise our cars so much and according to your vehicle list you've never owned one, why are you even here?
Old 03-21-2012, 05:25 PM
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Michael,

Do you really own a Toyota Tundra? Now come on, tell the truth, it's really a Chevy isn't it......
Old 03-21-2012, 06:16 PM
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If you believe the consensus on the 993 and 997 forums, the 996 is actually a rebadged vehicle built by Kia that instead of having race bred lineage out of Germany, is the product of a drunken romp between GM's light truck division and Hyundai's performance division out of Korea.

Mark
Old 03-21-2012, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by morsini
Supply and demand.
I guess that's why, despite costing more than comparable 993s, Porsche sold more 996es than 993s; and while Porsche whisked the 993 away from the public to save the company from bankruptcy after only 5 years they continued selling the 996 for 7.
Old 03-21-2012, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by morsini
Anytime and ya-right. Now I suppose your going to tell me you can buy one for 20k. Oh wait, you can!
Why don't you bring your expensive 993 to Texas this August and we'll take a little drive from Beaumont to El Paso.
Old 03-21-2012, 08:59 PM
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996 started out kinda soft in the style department, but it got much better by the time the mark 2's came around.
Old 03-21-2012, 09:11 PM
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I remember reading a story back in the 90's, I don't know if it's true. It said when they did the 996/Boxster they brought in some Japanese experts. The Porsche engine assembly area was full of benches with a lot of shelves above them. The fitters would rummage through the shelves until they found parts that would fit other parts, machine them a little if needed, and assemble an engine.

The expert came in with a power saw and cut down all the shelves and said "from now on you will make parts that fit in the first place".

I do not remember the source and do not know if it's true
Old 03-22-2012, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by leedav
I remember reading a story back in the 90's, I don't know if it's true. It said when they did the 996/Boxster they brought in some Japanese experts. The Porsche engine assembly area was full of benches with a lot of shelves above them. The fitters would rummage through the shelves until they found parts that would fit other parts, machine them a little if needed, and assemble an engine.

The expert came in with a power saw and cut down all the shelves and said "from now on you will make parts that fit in the first place".

I do not remember the source and do not know if it's true
Partly true, partly apocryphal. The 996/986 introduced automation to some of the chassis production process, so Porsche brought Toyota in to shorten the learning curve (Toyota's production engineering is the best in the world). I have a vague memory that they also did some component engineering, too... the AC, maybe. The engines, however, were still hand built on a bench.

A few years back, someone on this board visited the plant, and was delighted to discover that a lot of 996s were signed by assemblers, inside a rear fender, IIRC. For Porsche, this series was very 'mass produced,' but by most automotive standards it was still pretty old-school.
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Originally Posted by lowside67
If you believe the consensus on the 993 and 997 forums, the 996 is actually a rebadged vehicle built by Kia that instead of having race bred lineage out of Germany, is the product of a drunken romp between GM's light truck division and Hyundai's performance division out of Korea.

Mark
Isn't it?
Old 03-22-2012, 12:16 PM
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You know, I can't for the life of me figure out where Porsche owners got their antisocial reputation.
Old 03-22-2012, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SSST
Why don't you bring your expensive 993 to Texas this August and we'll take a little drive from Beaumont to El Paso.
and then what? are you gonna fight? race? drink?

point of your post?


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