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Old 11-01-2011, 05:17 PM
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Car was just in for repairs. The front right fender was replaced due to a car backing into it.

Upon getting my car back today, I locked it with the remote on my key, and it locked just fine - for 2 seconds. Then it unlocked itself, and the horn honked twice.

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Old 11-01-2011, 06:12 PM
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In my experience the only time my car will double beep and unlock after locking is either a door, hood or trunk is still open or car "thinks" its still open.
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In my experience the only time my car will double beep and unlock after locking is either a door, hood or trunk is still open or car "thinks" its still open.
Really? For me it seemed the car would always lock and give one honk if my door or truck wasnt closed. but would remained locked.
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Originally Posted by Braden996
Background info:

Car was just in for repairs. The front right fender was replaced due to a car backing into it.

Upon getting my car back today, I locked it with the remote on my key, and it locked just fine - for 2 seconds. Then it unlocked itself, and the horn honked twice.

Help?
Sounds like a problem with the security system, not the main system, not the controller, but with one of the many switches/sensors.

One possible cause is a door lock assembly. A bad one can start out causing the symptom you report. The condition deteriorates and then you'll hear the doors lock and see the door lock Led on the dash come on shortly after starting the engine and driving away. (I seldom lock the car once I'm in the car.) If one presses the door unlock button on the dash the doors unlock and the Led goes dark but sometimes the Led comes on again concurrently with the sounds of the doors locking.

Towards the 'end' the window of the door with the failing door lock will fail to drop when the door is opened or worse drop then come up again once the door is open.

A shop equipped with a PST2/PIWIS can interact with the car's security controller and pull out any error codes and from the codes probably pinpoint the door and likely the sensor/switch. In my car's case though it turned out to be the door lock assembly proper and not one of the cheaper/smaller switches/sensors.

On the outside chance it is not a door lock check for dampness in the cabin. Maybe the car got left out in the rain with the top down one day?

Also, cars in for body work often get washed quite heavily and if a car water drain is blocked, or even if the top leaks, or a door/window seal leaks, this can let water in the cabin and the car's security system controller is located on the floor of the cabin, under one of the seats.

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Old 11-01-2011, 10:10 PM
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Sounds like a problem with the security system, not the main system, not the controller, but with one of the many switches/sensors.

One possible cause is a door lock assembly. A bad one can start out causing the symptom you report. The condition deteriorates and then you'll hear the doors lock and see the door lock Led on the dash come on shortly after starting the engine and driving away. (I seldom lock the car once I'm in the car.) If one presses the door unlock button on the dash the doors unlock and the Led goes dark but sometimes the Led comes on again concurrently with the sounds of the doors locking.

Towards the 'end' the window of the door with the failing door lock will fail to drop when the door is opened or worse drop then come up again once the door is open.

A shop equipped with a PST2/PIWIS can interact with the car's security controller and pull out any error codes and from the codes probably pinpoint the door and likely the sensor/switch. In my car's case though it turned out to be the door lock assembly proper and not one of the cheaper/smaller switches/sensors.

On the outside chance it is not a door lock check for dampness in the cabin. Maybe the car got left out in the rain with the top down one day?

Also, cars in for body work often get washed quite heavily and if a car water drain is blocked, or even if the top leaks, or a door/window seal leaks, this can let water in the cabin and the car's security system controller is located on the floor of the cabin, under one of the seats.

Sincerely,

Macster
I think you have something with the door lock assembly. When I went to check on the car they had the whole handle taken out of the door frame... I feel like this may be a sound place to start.

Thanks!
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Was the radio/cd unit taken out by chance?
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Er uh security sensor has crash detect parameters from damaged bumper problem and work telling it keep doors unlocked? Maybe, kind of, could be, I don't know, who knows, what the heck
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OK...did I read this right???


worked fine, took to shop...works less than fine......

solution...take back to shop that did work?????
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It is an issue with the door lock sensors. There is an excellent write-up over on Renntech. I have had the same problem and the only way to eliminate it is clean and or replace the errant switches/sensors. In the write-up, look at #6 in the "Typical Faults" section.
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OK...did I read this right???


worked fine, took to shop...works less than fine......

solution...take back to shop that did work?????
yes, you did. And thats what is happening. But I wanted to do some of my own research as well.
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Originally Posted by Pac996
Er uh security sensor has crash detect parameters from damaged bumper problem and work telling it keep doors unlocked? Maybe, kind of, could be, I don't know, who knows, what the heck
+1 EMT folks can't get into locked car so if fender-bumper "crash" sensor open/closed?? car unlocks.
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Cars fixed. The car just needed its faults reset. And as far as the lock/unlock goes, they had crossed the wires X_X



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