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Old 09-10-2011, 01:49 PM
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The fuel gauge does not go to full - shows 3/4 a tank after fueling. I replaced the battery without a full tank of gas, and that is probably what caused this. I've been all over my owners manual, and cannot figure out how to reset this without filling up and pulling out the battery.

Is there a trick, or the best option is just fuel up and pull the battery?
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C4 or Turbo? If so the isolated part of the tank is inferred after it gets below a certain level.
How much gas was in the tank when you replaced the battery? You might try filling it and disconnecting the battery.

I think I read that you have to see dealer to reset it. They drain the tank add a known amount then reset the gauge.
There may be other ways to reset.

Did you try a search on Renntech.org? If you aren't a member you might want to join. Then you can see TSBs, manuals etc...

Below is from a thread on Renntech
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic..._1#entry191875

"Calibrating fuel level sensor system
1. Disconnect the battery and cover terminal or battery.
2. Remove cap over the fuel level sensor system.
3. Remove fuel level sensor. Removing and installing fuel pump.
4. Using a fuel extractor, completely drain the fuel tank through the fuel level sensor opening.
5. −Make sure that the two recesses on the left and right−hand sides of the tank are emptied completely.−
6. Reinstall the fuel level sensor and, with "ignition off", fill the tank with exactly 28 liters of fuel.
7. Perform tank calibration with the Porsche System Tester 2:
- Select vehicle type (911 Carrera)
- Select control modules
- Select instrument cluster
- Select menu item "Tank calibration"
- Confirm calibration
8. The fuel level sensor system has now been calibrated."
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C4 (2001) I'll give the fill/disconnect a try tomorrow. I was hoping for an easier way, but have wrench and the radio code handy.

(Had a subscription to renntech a while back, but had problems with the login. Never did get it sorted.)
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My fuel gauge also does not display properly. It reads about 7/8 full when it has been filled to the brim, and about 1/8 when totally empty. This resulted after an engine, computer and instrument panel swap. I have a '99 C4. The instrument panel had to be changed so the cruise control would work with the 3.6 engine and ECU. Before the swap, the fuel gauge was operating properly.

So, I will be interested to hear if the reset procedure posted earlier will fix the problem.

Keep us posted!
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Originally Posted by fpb111
C4 or Turbo? If so the isolated part of the tank is inferred after it gets below a certain level.
How much gas was in the tank when you replaced the battery? You might try filling it and disconnecting the battery.

I think I read that you have to see dealer to reset it. They drain the tank add a known amount then reset the gauge.
There may be other ways to reset.

Did you try a search on Renntech.org? If you aren't a member you might want to join. Then you can see TSBs, manuals etc...

Below is from a thread on Renntech
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic..._1#entry191875

"Calibrating fuel level sensor system
1. Disconnect the battery and cover terminal or battery.
2. Remove cap over the fuel level sensor system.
3. Remove fuel level sensor. Removing and installing fuel pump.
4. Using a fuel extractor, completely drain the fuel tank through the fuel level sensor opening.
5. −Make sure that the two recesses on the left and right−hand sides of the tank are emptied completely.−
6. Reinstall the fuel level sensor and, with "ignition off", fill the tank with exactly 28 liters of fuel.
7. Perform tank calibration with the Porsche System Tester 2:
- Select vehicle type (911 Carrera)
- Select control modules
- Select instrument cluster
- Select menu item "Tank calibration"
- Confirm calibration
8. The fuel level sensor system has now been calibrated."
This is crazy, isn't it? It's hard to beleive this much work has to be performed to calibrate the fuel gauge after a simple act of changing the battery........

How about those folks who take the battery out of their cars for winter storage? Has this been an issue for you folks?
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As long as you have more then (1/2?) tank there will be no problem.

If you pull the battery when the level is below the *"split" you will lose calibration.
*"...two recesses on the left and right−hand sides of the tank..."

NOTE:
This only on four wheel drive cars, Turbo, C4, they have a saddle tank to clear the front diff and still have enough fuel.
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If you DIY make sure to place the pickup hoses back to the original positions or you may allow them to foul the fuel filler door flap. If that happens you will not be able to put more than a cup full of fuel in the tank at a time. Do a search there is info and pics floating around Rennlist I think
There is a TSB for tying them back when they get out of position on their own.

Access to the fuel pump/sending unit is under the battery on C2 and here on C4
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Thank you for the picture. Did not realize the fuel pump was that easy to get at. Getting to be that time of life where I should update the fuel filter too. More homework for the weekend.
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heelix, have you tried this procedure yet?
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This part of the procedure is probably dealer only.

"7. Perform tank calibration with the Porsche System Tester 2:
- Select vehicle type (911 Carrera)
- Select control modules
- Select instrument cluster
- Select menu item "Tank calibration"
- Confirm calibration"
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That cover is access to the sender, pump, (attached to the bottom of the tank by ~1/2 turn click into socket) and a spagetti of hoses.
If your car has a filter (pre 2001 - 2? not sure) it will be up in the tunnel under the car pain to change.
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Originally Posted by fpb111
This part of the procedure is probably dealer only.

"7. Perform tank calibration with the Porsche System Tester 2:
- Select vehicle type (911 Carrera)
- Select control modules
- Select instrument cluster
- Select menu item "Tank calibration"
- Confirm calibration"

Frank, do you know if the Durametric product will do the same as the Porsche System Tester?

Seems hardly worthwhile doing this as a DIY if you have to take it to the dealer for the last step, where who knows what they will charge you.
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Fueling and 'rebooting' the car overnight with the battery out seems to have done the trick.
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Did not even think to hook my Durametric cable up and see if fuel calibration was an option.
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No, Durametric does not have this option.

Only a PST2 or PIWIS can do this calibration.

FWIW, on my 1999 car, calibration is no longer possible - the level sender is too old, and the PST2 reports that the calibration margins are too far out of spec.


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