996 buyers are a different sort
08-15-2011, 10:37 PM
#46
Racer
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J beede, where are you getting the info that 99-2001 Carrera's that have had engine replacements have a 22mm IMS that cannot benefit from the L&N upgrade??? I HIGHLY doubt they redesigned the 3.4 just for replacement motors, that would have required a complete retool and new block design to my knowledge. From what I know, all 3.4 engines have an IMS that can be removed and replaced by the L&N bearing kit. Please share with us where it is stated otherwise?
David
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10-10-2011, 11:23 PM
#51
Drifting
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my 1999 C2 Cabriolet + hardtop
Could be a fair statement since we don't know each other. I purchased mine in 2007, hmmm now that I think about it was our 4 year anniversary on the 7th of this month. Dealer should have called me and told me how badly they needed my used 996 on trade for that GTS!
Actually I did not buy mine on a whim and I obviously paid much more than $20k for it four years ago. I'll admit that other than googling "2004 Porsche" and paying for a full car fax, I did not anguish for months in research. I knew about the RMS, was somewhat concerned until I read about the progressive updates to the replacements and mine was replaced when qualifying for CPO. I will add that I am still on that RMS and it was dry when my transmission was replaced about 2 years ago, under CPO. They replaced the IMS at the same time, "while they were in there". The single requirement that I had was that I purchase a CPO car. The IMSB catastrophy must not have been so well known, or published, or fed upon, in August of 2007 because my internet searches never showed anything, maybe I didn't research enough, who knows.
I do know that after spending some time here and on Renn Tech, I learned about it and I did stress in a major way. I pestered the hell out of the service manager. He insisted that although they knew about the issue, they had never actually had any in their shop. LOL - he finally got pissed at me and said "look - you paid good money for a CPO car - go out and drive it like you want to blow it up and if it blows up you'll get a crate motor installed for free". So - I pretty much followed his advice and darn, I should have known, the motor has not yet blown up (fingers crossed) and the CPO has long since expired. I put 11k miles per year on the 996 alone.
So - I don't think all 996 owners are of the breed you describe, but then again, not all 996's blow up as soon as the new owner drives away. As soon as I can find my "lucky" meter I am heading to the casino - have to find a way to get that GTS so I can put all of this IMS stuff behind me.
P.S. - if I had it to do over again and knew about the IMS prior to purchase - I honestly believe I would have purschased the car anyway. There isn't much I've enjoyed in my life that hasn't come with known risk.
Let's all drive and enjoy.
Actually I did not buy mine on a whim and I obviously paid much more than $20k for it four years ago. I'll admit that other than googling "2004 Porsche" and paying for a full car fax, I did not anguish for months in research. I knew about the RMS, was somewhat concerned until I read about the progressive updates to the replacements and mine was replaced when qualifying for CPO. I will add that I am still on that RMS and it was dry when my transmission was replaced about 2 years ago, under CPO. They replaced the IMS at the same time, "while they were in there". The single requirement that I had was that I purchase a CPO car. The IMSB catastrophy must not have been so well known, or published, or fed upon, in August of 2007 because my internet searches never showed anything, maybe I didn't research enough, who knows.
I do know that after spending some time here and on Renn Tech, I learned about it and I did stress in a major way. I pestered the hell out of the service manager. He insisted that although they knew about the issue, they had never actually had any in their shop. LOL - he finally got pissed at me and said "look - you paid good money for a CPO car - go out and drive it like you want to blow it up and if it blows up you'll get a crate motor installed for free". So - I pretty much followed his advice and darn, I should have known, the motor has not yet blown up (fingers crossed) and the CPO has long since expired. I put 11k miles per year on the 996 alone.
So - I don't think all 996 owners are of the breed you describe, but then again, not all 996's blow up as soon as the new owner drives away. As soon as I can find my "lucky" meter I am heading to the casino - have to find a way to get that GTS so I can put all of this IMS stuff behind me.
P.S. - if I had it to do over again and knew about the IMS prior to purchase - I honestly believe I would have purschased the car anyway. There isn't much I've enjoyed in my life that hasn't come with known risk.
Let's all drive and enjoy.
Why live in the wreckage of our futures. It hasn't happened yet. Live each day as though it is your last. One day we will be right.
10-10-2011, 11:37 PM
#52
Three Wheelin'
Congrats! I love your attitude but 17mpg!?!? Where can I get some of that?! I'm averaging about 13.5-14mpg on a tank and I'm really not pushing it hard at all. Most of mileage is around town but is this something I should be concerned about?
I figured my Volvo gets about 15-16mpg doing the same commute so ~14mpg couldn't be that bad for the Porsche. My Saab gets about 30mpg. Maybe I'm driving the wrong car on a daily basis.
-Eric
I figured my Volvo gets about 15-16mpg doing the same commute so ~14mpg couldn't be that bad for the Porsche. My Saab gets about 30mpg. Maybe I'm driving the wrong car on a daily basis.
-Eric
10-11-2011, 09:30 AM
#53
Instructor
My pre-purchase inspection was a track day at Watkins Glen with the previous owner. After we finished the second day I handed him a check and he handed me the keys. Worked out great, I highly recommend this method!
10-11-2011, 10:23 AM
#54
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Congrats! I love your attitude but 17mpg!?!? Where can I get some of that?! I'm averaging about 13.5-14mpg on a tank and I'm really not pushing it hard at all. Most of mileage is around town but is this something I should be concerned about?
I figured my Volvo gets about 15-16mpg doing the same commute so ~14mpg couldn't be that bad for the Porsche. My Saab gets about 30mpg. Maybe I'm driving the wrong car on a daily basis.
-Eric
I figured my Volvo gets about 15-16mpg doing the same commute so ~14mpg couldn't be that bad for the Porsche. My Saab gets about 30mpg. Maybe I'm driving the wrong car on a daily basis.
-Eric
It's not a huge difference but generally the only time I see something in that range is:
a) at the track
b) right after I fill up, reset my mileage counter, and shift and the redline for the next few stoplights. Soon thereafter though I get back to the higher ranges
10-11-2011, 11:43 AM
#55
Three Wheelin'
I drive mine pretty hard on a daily basis and usually get 17-18 MPG. On the highway anywhere from 26-29. I'm surprised you're getting mileage ratings that low.
It's not a huge difference but generally the only time I see something in that range is:
a) at the track
b) right after I fill up, reset my mileage counter, and shift and the redline for the next few stoplights. Soon thereafter though I get back to the higher ranges
It's not a huge difference but generally the only time I see something in that range is:
a) at the track
b) right after I fill up, reset my mileage counter, and shift and the redline for the next few stoplights. Soon thereafter though I get back to the higher ranges
According to Bing, my total commute door to door is only 4.9 miles -- about 2.1 miles local roads (including a school drop off), 1.8 miles on the Parkway and then 1 mile of local road to my office. Rough commute, I know.
I'm sure I'm killing some gas waiting to get in and out of the school lot but I don't race off the lot at redline and my quick jaunt on the Parkway is packed with other commuters moving at about 50-60mph.Would anything else contribute to the low mileage? I'm not sure which model you have but does a C4 typically get materially worse mileage (on average) than a C2? Maybe I'm enjoying the top down or listening to the exhaust too much.
-Eric
10-11-2011, 12:13 PM
#56
Drifting
Eric, I'd reset your mileage then take a 20 mile or so drive pretty much nonstop and see where it is. A 5 mile repeted stop and go is going to show poor mileage no matter what your driving.
10-11-2011, 08:23 PM
#57
Drifting
Congrats! I love your attitude but 17mpg!?!? Where can I get some of that?! I'm averaging about 13.5-14mpg on a tank and I'm really not pushing it hard at all. Most of mileage is around town but is this something I should be concerned about?
I figured my Volvo gets about 15-16mpg doing the same commute so ~14mpg couldn't be that bad for the Porsche. My Saab gets about 30mpg. Maybe I'm driving the wrong car on a daily basis.
-Eric
I figured my Volvo gets about 15-16mpg doing the same commute so ~14mpg couldn't be that bad for the Porsche. My Saab gets about 30mpg. Maybe I'm driving the wrong car on a daily basis.
-Eric
10-11-2011, 10:01 PM
#58
Rennlist Member
J beed Keep enlightening the ignorant 996 owners. I am sure they are much happier after hearing THE WORD from on high.
Did you ever find that perfect 996?
