It was advertised at $19,750 and was the cheapest MK2 car I'd come across in the country back when it had somewhere around 150k miles. I've done a few minor things to it (non-smokers package, full crest center caps, ipod integration, GT3 front splitter/shifter, delete non-factory rear spoiler, brake flush etc) but it was a superbly maintained car. Even though I prefer the later model cars and wouldn't mind switching out of a 996 Carrera, I'd buy even a 1999 model at 14k if it was in comparable shape, but I don't think they exist. Here's a couple more shots:



I haven't advertised it yet, though I suspect it's worth around $19k. The clutch, alternator/starter/belts/water pump, brakes etc. have been done, along with window regulators and the other common 996 stuff.

 

I hope you don't take this personally but that's just crazy. Why would anyone spend $10K on a car that needed all of the work/servicing you listed unless perhaps it was discounted to $10K with all the cost of that work taken into account?

There are plenty of these cars out there that do not need that kind of work and quite honestly if I thought a prospective used car needed that kind of work to bring it up to some level of acceptability I wouldn't take the car as a gift.

Sincerely,

Macster.

 

Sorry I can't help you with prices directly.

My advice is to use several of the online sites that will calculate or somehow produce a value for these cars and feed the sites the car's details and see what numbers come up.

I like to start with the assumption the car is worth no more than its wholesale value though it is unlikely (read impossible almost) one can buy the car for that money. But that would be my starting point.

You can use the car's high mileage against it to perhaps drive a better deal but you can't push it too much or the seller might start to wonder if you're so put off with the high miles why don't you just go buy a car with fewer miles?

Sincerely,

Macster.

 

I certainly don't take in personally. All of that work is somewhat "standard fare" in my opinion for a car of that age and mileage.

I paid well more than $10K for my 03 C2 that had 35k on the clock when I purchased it (July 09) and I have done the following to it:

RMS, New IMS bolts, new engine case bolts (no cost to me under CPO)
Clutch kit (bought at sunset and had dealer put this in when they did the RMS = no labor $$)
Oil pressure sensor (under CPO)
Water pump with a LN lower temp stat and complete coolant flush (did this myself and I am glad I did because the WP bearing was a little noisy).

Spark plugs (done myself)

check the coils (I have 3 in my toolbox waiting for one of them to fail)
New filters air/oil/cabin (regular maintenence)

In addition, I've done:

Engine lid strut
2 drivers side door microswitches
Drivers side door lock mechanism

So as you can see, my cost of ownership has been decent but could have been more dramatic without the CPO. It just seems like these cars require that type of attention.

 

I had the opportunity to see Ahmet's car in person. I could not believe the number of miles compared to how the car looks. I have seen cars with half that mileage that show a lot more wear.
BTW, thanks for taking care of my clutch Ahmet.

 

This message regards the work performed by Soverystout....

It is hard to believe that a car with only 35K on it needed so much work.

I use to have Porsche of all kind for more then 22 years now and i never had to replaced a clutch or a water pump or did so much work on a Porsche and by the way i never bought a Porsche with less then 60K on it...too expensive...

For example my friend bought 6 years ago a Porsche 911 2000 like mine with more then 110K on it and now the car has exactly 180K and he never changed anything on his car except for the water pump as preventive care.

Since then it is hard to say don't buy a car with too many miles on it because each time i read article this site each and every Porsche that have problem has less then 50K on them...unless the millage is not the real one...those Porsche are supposed to be one of the more reliable built by Porsche.

Anyway as i can see if we buy a Porsche with 35K on it or we buy a Porsche with 135K on it you will have to do the same work on it so....buy it at a good price fix everything that need to be fix and have fun.

I bought mine last year with 60K on it and except for the AOS flex tube i have had no problem at all.

Good luck

Robert

 

Let me clarify. The car didn't need a new clutch at 35k. The pressure plate made the pedal very heavy (don't know if a fork was going bad) and I had the opportunity to get a new clutch in there (not knowing how it was driven before) for no labor charge. Most likely, I could have driven the car on the original clutch for another 60K. Just chose not to. A full clutch kit from Sunset is just north of $500. A small price to pay (IMO) to have a car that was new to me with a brand new clutch.

Forget mileage for a moment. Even my car was manufactured in late 2002. That means the orginal water pump (subject to the original coolant) would be 9years old if I had not replaced it 2 months ago.

So maybe higher mileage 996s are the way to go given they seem to be less prone to premature wear.

 

My Boxster is lapis blue. Nice color!

Sincerely,

Macster.

 

At 145K I think you'd have to question how much life there is left in the car - before the cost of rebuild, suspension etc. is more than the car is worth. If I already owned the car - I'd keep running it until it broke.

You can get an '02 with under 100K for <<$30K - - and yes, it might also need a $20K rebuild at some point - and at that point it may not be worth doing, but chances are you can still run a well maintained model for a few years - at a fraction of the depreciation of a new one.

If I have a car with 50Km on it now and run it for the next 4 years at 10k/yr - I can probably still sell it and recover a significant % of my purchase price - or the longer I keep it - the less I pay in average annual depreciation.

If you do the math assuming what you can buy it and sell it for - I think the $$ work out better for a lower mileage example.

 

My car is a 2002 with 151K miles and doesn't need anything. That's a lot of refreshing for 140K miles. I was selling mine for $23,999 but took it out of the market. I guess I will keep her for another year!

 

Well, we are talking 996's but my 02 Boxster has almost 245K miles on it (original engine and original clutch) so I'd say at 145K miles for the car we are talking about the car could be barely broken in...

There can be plenty of life in a car with some relatively big miles.

The car if one checks it out properly will give one a pretty good idea of what it may need now and based on its condition and service history and so on what it might or might not need going forward.

What I mean is a car that is in good shape, condition, and so on might not that much going forward but another car might not even be worth the bother/risk.

Sincerely,

Macster.

 

You're welcome man, it's a pretty straight forward job. I'm glad we could take care of it and save you a few bucks.

Also thanks for the compliments on the car. I shop on condition and if miles are high it seems easier to get a good deal but miles alone don't seem to indicate condition at all. Anyway I had several people take pictures of it on the highway last weekend for some reason. I don't think I got that much attention in a Porsche before, not even in my super clean Carrera 4S... though one of my girlfriends that saw your car at the shop said it was sweet, heh.

 

I am not sure what will be the exact price as I have not been in the market for one. I have seen a few mid 100k miles on the market in the mid / high teens. Not sure what the actual sales price is but all depends how much you will pay and how much money you need to put into it. Low $10ks seem a good number but not sure anyone here or outside this forum have bought at that price? I am sure there is a posibility.

 

This is a rough estimate of what I have seen in the market:

MKII C2 Coupe - 60k miles - 25k
MKI C2 Coupe - 60k miles - 20k

For every 10k miles, subtract 1k

~12.5k for that car.

 

Good list!