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Old 01-23-2011, 11:41 AM
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What class does this run in with NASA ? PCA ?
Old 01-23-2011, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by veit
Yea stock is 296 but as i said the x pipe and the remapped ecu make a big difference. Plus the cold air intake and some other stuff.
I call BS on the 356 HP. Dyno would show about 275 to 285 at the wheels and that would give you 310 - 320 at the crank.
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Originally Posted by good hands
What class does this run in with NASA ? PCA ?
in pca its a GTC4, in PBOC its a R4 and in NASA GTS4
Old 01-23-2011, 12:39 PM
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In PCA it would race in GTB1 or SP996 not GTC4.
Old 01-23-2011, 05:46 PM
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noit wouldnt since it is not spec 996! I dont know about GTB1.The car ran GTC4 for the past years!
Old 01-23-2011, 06:11 PM
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The air is getting thin here. If not spec 996 what prevents it from being spec 996? You're posts need to be a little more specific(detail to the bone) if someone is going to shell out $60k. 356 hp off the crank on a 3.4 is hard to believe too. Do u have pics of car weight etc. ? Mike
Old 01-23-2011, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
The air is getting thin here. If not spec 996 what prevents it from being spec 996?
The RSS suspension, the wheels, the ECU upgrade, the cold air intake, the GT3 brakes, and probably the "other stuff" all push it out of Spec996.
Old 01-23-2011, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by veit
noit wouldnt since it is not spec 996! I dont know about GTB1.The car ran GTC4 for the past years!
I think you mean GT3 R or S in PCA depending on tires. It's not GTB elgible with GT3 brakes or the ECU flash.

The GTC4 class is specifically for 05'-09' 997 GT3 cup cars....

Exactly what motor does it have?
Old 01-23-2011, 10:29 PM
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do you have a 3.4 x51 motor in there?

how about lwfw... that's good for releasing 12whp due to reduction of internal mechanical mass...
Old 01-23-2011, 10:36 PM
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Yes I like to know if u have a x51 motor upgrade on a 3.4l motor : ).?mike
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Oh horse ****. I don't event think a blower can get a 3.4 to those levels at least not for long....

I have X51 headers to Fabspeed's X pipe to open pipes, GIAC's flash, and a few more tricks and the most I've ever dyno'd at was 282 at Miller which is 4500 fsw. At sea level I was 272 so allow me to be the first to call BS.....
The only dyno I put any creedence in is "The Great White Dyno" aka the Bonneville Salt Flats. I've run there and it will make a believer out of you!

Also long time head tech (30+ years) at the P dealer here told me he can get very little if any power increases with a flash on any N/A Porsche. I know a flash will just alter ignition timing and possibly fuel mixture which should already be optimal with the OE FI program (ECU). To really get more power, you need higher compression, larger valves, more aggressive cams, higher flowing ports and throttle body, less restrictive exhaust. Spinning it faster won't hurt either. Furthermore it all has to work together or it could very well make less power than stock.
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Originally Posted by nick49
The only dyno I put any creedence in is "The Great White Dyno" aka the Bonneville Salt Flats. I've run there and it will make a believer out of you!

Also long time head tech (30+ years) at the P dealer here told me he can get very little if any power increases with a flash on any N/A Porsche. I know a flash will just alter ignition timing and possibly fuel mixture which should already be optimal with the OE FI program (ECU). To really get more power, you need higher compression, larger valves, more aggressive cams, higher flowing ports and throttle body, less restrictive exhaust. Spinning it faster won't hurt either. Furthermore it all has to work together or it could very well make less power than stock.
no that's not the case.... the 3.4 engines and version of bosch motronic respond much better to a tune than any of the 3.6 later motors... a GIAC flash for a 99 3.4 motor will definitely give you a boost north of 4000 rpm !! your mechanic was probably referring to the 3.6 motors that don't get much extra only because of the later version of motronic software that controls the engine... earlier version of motronic according to the experts had more "variables" available for tuning....

theoretically a "tuned" 3.4 x51 with lwfw, cats, headers and no mufflers could very well push 305 whp... although I've never seen one.
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Car sold. Thanks for the replies.
Yes the car has a X51 upgrade.
Sold for $60000 to a friend who saw the car run.
I will be in Daytona from thursday on testing a 997 cup 2011.
Come out and see me.
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Originally Posted by Tbred911
no that's not the case.... the 3.4 engines and version of bosch motronic respond much better to a tune than any of the 3.6 later motors... a GIAC flash for a 99 3.4 motor will definitely give you a boost north of 4000 rpm !! your mechanic was probably referring to the 3.6 motors that don't get much extra only because of the later version of motronic software that controls the engine... earlier version of motronic according to the experts had more "variables" available for tuning....

theoretically a "tuned" 3.4 x51 with lwfw, cats, headers and no mufflers could very well push 305 whp... although I've never seen one.
I dyno'd at 249 all stock with open exhaust. I then installed x51 headers and a GIAC flash and dyno'd at the same shop at 272. My new 3.4 with all the same stuff just dyno'd at 257 damnit. Go figure....
Old 01-24-2011, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
I dyno'd at 249 all stock with open exhaust. I then installed x51 headers and a GIAC flash and dyno'd at the same shop at 272. My new 3.4 with all the same stuff just dyno'd at 257 damnit. Go figure....
hmm... how many miles did your older engine have on it when you dynoed it?


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