C4S track wheel setup
01-17-2011, 05:05 PM
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Are you sure the x73 for the Turbo and the C4S are the same? Both Gert's site and the Suncoast site indicate you must specify the model when ordering which would lead me to believe there are two different versions.
01-19-2011, 02:02 AM
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found a cool site in regards to Tom's info about driving, doing some searching...
any feedback would be great, so far I have only browsed it but looks like the basics are well covered
here's the link
http://www.drivingfast.net/
any feedback would be great, so far I have only browsed it but looks like the basics are well covered
here's the link
http://www.drivingfast.net/
01-19-2011, 10:51 AM
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So after doing all that to your C4S....and spending time on the track....then moving to the GT3, what were your first impressions about the differences between the two? Obviously the GT3 has more power, but in stock form compared to the custom setup of the C4S, was it that much better still? (handling, suspension, etc)
So after doing all that to your C4S....and spending time on the track....then moving to the GT3, what were your first impressions about the differences between the two? Obviously the GT3 has more power, but in stock form compared to the custom setup of the C4S, was it that much better still? (handling, suspension, etc)
IMO, you need an additional skill set to drive the GT3 fast. In fact, I was quite surprised to find that the GT3 isn't easy to drive near the limit at all - just the opposite. Sure, it's easy to go quick, but not easy to squeeze 9/10+ out of it. As an example, on day 1, I ran the same times with the GT3 as my old car - which I knew like the back of my hand. It was only after a few more track days and even some pro coaching in the GT3 (Patrick Long and a few others) that I was able to understand the dynamics of the GT3 and really push the car. Now, the GT3 is between 4-6 seconds a lap faster depending on track length (running the same tires of course (Hoosier R6s)).
Thinking about it now, my old car was actually a toned down version of the GT3 - as both have no PSM, PASM, or any other driver assistance. The only significant difference is the LSD, which enables way more trail braking and early throttle application.
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01-19-2011, 12:43 PM
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02-28-2011, 07:16 AM
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I just read your comments. Sounds like you are simply rolling on the throttle too early in the low speed corners which is where the push will be the most dramatic. Patience. These rear engine cars need to be driven by the rear wheels. It is the old advice....don't get into the throttle until you are certain you will not have to get out of it. So don't go hard to the accelerator until that thing is pointed right where you want it. Then give it the beans. The second or two that you are not in the throttle, does not translate into too much in lap times. But the benefit to waiting that small amount will translate into much faster speeds at the end of the next straight. (guess how I know....?
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I just read your comments. Sounds like you are simply rolling on the throttle too early in the low speed corners which is where the push will be the most dramatic. Patience. These rear engine cars need to be driven by the rear wheels. It is the old advice....don't get into the throttle until you are certain you will not have to get out of it. So don't go hard to the accelerator until that thing is pointed right where you want it. Then give it the beans. The second or two that you are not in the throttle, does not translate into too much in lap times. But the benefit to waiting that small amount will translate into much faster speeds at the end of the next straight. (guess how I know....?
)
02-28-2011, 10:00 AM
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Hardback:
I just read your comments. Sounds like you are simply rolling on the throttle too early in the low speed corners which is where the push will be the most dramatic. Patience. These rear engine cars need to be driven by the rear wheels. It is the old advice....don't get into the throttle until you are certain you will not have to get out of it. So don't go hard to the accelerator until that thing is pointed right where you want it. Then give it the beans. The second or two that you are not in the throttle, does not translate into too much in lap times. But the benefit to waiting that small amount will translate into much faster speeds at the end of the next straight. (guess how I know....? )
I just read your comments. Sounds like you are simply rolling on the throttle too early in the low speed corners which is where the push will be the most dramatic. Patience. These rear engine cars need to be driven by the rear wheels. It is the old advice....don't get into the throttle until you are certain you will not have to get out of it. So don't go hard to the accelerator until that thing is pointed right where you want it. Then give it the beans. The second or two that you are not in the throttle, does not translate into too much in lap times. But the benefit to waiting that small amount will translate into much faster speeds at the end of the next straight. (guess how I know....?
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