Stop Hearing About IMS Failures
#17
Burning Brakes
These are 3 cars coming in on one truck all with the same issue. We didn't see these failures at this rate until the Spring of this year, as water pumps aged due to time in service (not mileage) and their impellers began to fail. The failed impellers found a capillary within the cylinder head, which created a hot spot which developed a crack.
The good thing is this MOF is very easy to address and cheap, just requiring a water pump to be proactively installed. When the old pump is removed and visually inspected a cooling system flush may be necessary if one of the impeller blades is found broken. This piece of broken impeller is whats doing the damage thats leading to cracked heads, so it must be removed. If not the impeller will continue floating around in the coolant until it forces a failure even after the pump has been replaced!
Here are some examples of what a failed pump can cause..
Pic 1= 2000 Boxster S. Failed at 51K miles, cost of repair 18K (entire engine compromised due to consequential failures from severe intermix) customer chose my fully upgraded engine as a replacement
Pic 2= 2001 996 Failed at 34K miles, cost of repair 8,500.00 (engine compromised due to secondary rod bearing failure from intermixed oil) buyer went with our CPO engine program
Pic 3= 2001 Boxster failed at 18K miles, cost of repair 7,000.00 (we were able to save this one with crack repair and some effort)
Last edited by Jake Raby; 01-11-2015 at 11:56 PM.
#19
Burning Brakes
Every M96 on the road is old enough to need the water pump replaced to avoid ending up on that same truck that delivered those 3 cars to me earlier this morning.
BTW- Two of those are dead, the third one was dead before it arrived with D chunk failure.
#20
Three Wheelin'
I feel like the IMS threads are directly related to waves of new and prospective owners, especially since the economic downturn and the very low prices on early 996s we've had a lot of new people coming through all the Porsche forums, and they needed to go hrough the same cycle that any new or prospective internet savvy watercooled Porsche owner goes through:
1. OMG these cars are a a great deal. Does anyone have 84 month financing for these cars?
2. OMG do they all blow up? 99s? 00s? are Mk2s safe? Do 997s blow up? What about 997.2s? Should I buy an M3/Corvette/Honda?
3. Wait, Will my car blow up? I should bump some 3 year old 3rd party warranty threads.
4. Let me create new threads on topics which have been beaten to death and revive 5 year old threads just so they can be beaten to death by a new set of people:
5. Who want to do surveys;
6. File class action law suits;
7. and speculate on the effectiveness of various preventative maintenance measures;
8. only to do nothing about it at all, eventually just changing the oil and driving the car happily like the rest of us.
BTW Jake how on earth did it make more sense for your 2000 boxster S guy to pay 18K for a new motor instead of selling his roller to a spec racer for say 8-10K and picking up a used boxster S for <20? That seems like a very confusing situation to be in.
1. OMG these cars are a a great deal. Does anyone have 84 month financing for these cars?
2. OMG do they all blow up? 99s? 00s? are Mk2s safe? Do 997s blow up? What about 997.2s? Should I buy an M3/Corvette/Honda?
3. Wait, Will my car blow up? I should bump some 3 year old 3rd party warranty threads.
4. Let me create new threads on topics which have been beaten to death and revive 5 year old threads just so they can be beaten to death by a new set of people:
5. Who want to do surveys;
6. File class action law suits;
7. and speculate on the effectiveness of various preventative maintenance measures;
8. only to do nothing about it at all, eventually just changing the oil and driving the car happily like the rest of us.
BTW Jake how on earth did it make more sense for your 2000 boxster S guy to pay 18K for a new motor instead of selling his roller to a spec racer for say 8-10K and picking up a used boxster S for <20? That seems like a very confusing situation to be in.
#21
Guest
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Hey Jim, thanks for the props, I hope you know I was just having some fun with you... It seems like every time I check Rennlist there's a new topic about the IMS/RMS, so it was funny to see someone asking why they don't see more discussion about it.
Jake, I know you recommend replacing the water pump; do you recommend the Porsche OEM pump, or another brand?
Must admit, Baghdad was a lot more fun back when we actually had external enemies to fight, rather than all the political infighting that's going on now...
Jake, I know you recommend replacing the water pump; do you recommend the Porsche OEM pump, or another brand?
Must admit, Baghdad was a lot more fun back when we actually had external enemies to fight, rather than all the political infighting that's going on now...
#22
Hey Jim, thanks for the props, I hope you know I was just having some fun with you... It seems like every time I check Rennlist there's a new topic about the IMS/RMS, so it was funny to see someone asking why they don't see more discussion about it.
Jake, I know you recommend replacing the water pump; do you recommend the Porsche OEM pump, or another brand?
Must admit, Baghdad was a lot more fun back when we actually had external enemies to fight, rather than all the political infighting that's going on now...
Jake, I know you recommend replacing the water pump; do you recommend the Porsche OEM pump, or another brand?
Must admit, Baghdad was a lot more fun back when we actually had external enemies to fight, rather than all the political infighting that's going on now...
Is there an updated pump, does it matter what brand?
#23
Burning Brakes
BTW Jake how on earth did it make more sense for your 2000 boxster S guy to pay 18K for a new motor instead of selling his roller to a spec racer for say 8-10K and picking up a used boxster S for <20? That seems like a very confusing situation to be in
The one thing that EVERYONE who buys a fully upgraded engine from me shares is the desire to keep their car forever, thats why you never see cars for sale that have my fully upgraded engines installed.
I am the same way, the things related to my Porsches (and even old VWs) come at a cost but that cost is just the amount I have to write on the check.
#24
Drifting
I feel like the IMS threads are directly related to waves of new and prospective owners, especially since the economic downturn and the very low prices on early 996s we've had a lot of new people coming through all the Porsche forums, and they needed to go hrough the same cycle that any new or prospective internet savvy watercooled Porsche owner goes through:
1. OMG these cars are a a great deal. Does anyone have 84 month financing for these cars?
2. OMG do they all blow up? 99s? 00s? are Mk2s safe? Do 997s blow up? What about 997.2s? Should I buy an M3/Corvette/Honda?
3. Wait, Will my car blow up? I should bump some 3 year old 3rd party warranty threads.
4. Let me create new threads on topics which have been beaten to death and revive 5 year old threads just so they can be beaten to death by a new set of people:
5. Who want to do surveys;
6. File class action law suits;
7. and speculate on the effectiveness of various preventative maintenance measures;
8. only to do nothing about it at all, eventually just changing the oil and driving the car happily like the rest of us.
BTW Jake how on earth did it make more sense for your 2000 boxster S guy to pay 18K for a new motor instead of selling his roller to a spec racer for say 8-10K and picking up a used boxster S for <20? That seems like a very confusing situation to be in.
1. OMG these cars are a a great deal. Does anyone have 84 month financing for these cars?
2. OMG do they all blow up? 99s? 00s? are Mk2s safe? Do 997s blow up? What about 997.2s? Should I buy an M3/Corvette/Honda?
3. Wait, Will my car blow up? I should bump some 3 year old 3rd party warranty threads.
4. Let me create new threads on topics which have been beaten to death and revive 5 year old threads just so they can be beaten to death by a new set of people:
5. Who want to do surveys;
6. File class action law suits;
7. and speculate on the effectiveness of various preventative maintenance measures;
8. only to do nothing about it at all, eventually just changing the oil and driving the car happily like the rest of us.
BTW Jake how on earth did it make more sense for your 2000 boxster S guy to pay 18K for a new motor instead of selling his roller to a spec racer for say 8-10K and picking up a used boxster S for <20? That seems like a very confusing situation to be in.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
#26
IF I were running a porsche forum I'd have snubjects like IMS automaticly transfered to a repair section.
How come I never see an IMS failure on the tv show I Can't Believe I Survived?
How come I never see an IMS failure on the tv show I Can't Believe I Survived?