Rear end drifting... almost unvoluntary
09-09-2010, 11:41 PM
#1
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Rear end drifting... almost unvoluntary
Every time I stop by that restaurant to pick up some take out food, and slam the gas while existing their parking lot and merging into traffic, the rear end enter a massive rear end slide/drifting.
I admit it, I am punching the gas and making a 70 degree turn into traffic, but I am doing the same thing on plenty other intersections
and never had any single rear end drift ever.
I went to autocross and no rear drift at all.
I check my tires and nothing leaks on them and they are clean. The only thing I can see if that the surface between the parking lot and the road is very "polished" and it is 2 feet wide. Do you think that explains it ?
I mean does the car enter a drift on the smooth pavement, and then keep on sliding until I release the gas ?
Anyways it is quite fun, but I wouldn't want to have this happening when I don't expect it.
I admit it, I am punching the gas and making a 70 degree turn into traffic, but I am doing the same thing on plenty other intersections
and never had any single rear end drift ever.I went to autocross and no rear drift at all.
I check my tires and nothing leaks on them and they are clean. The only thing I can see if that the surface between the parking lot and the road is very "polished" and it is 2 feet wide. Do you think that explains it ?
I mean does the car enter a drift on the smooth pavement, and then keep on sliding until I release the gas ?
Anyways it is quite fun, but I wouldn't want to have this happening when I don't expect it.
09-10-2010, 03:06 AM
#4
Could be cold tires in combination with slicker surface. What looks clean might have lots of loose road dust and debri. Concrete is slicker than asphalt. Some asphalts are slicker than others. You could control the tail swinging out better if you would enter the turn with your tires already smokin'
Anyway I imagine the uneven surface of parking to main road also helps unsettle the rear. The front tire are going to hang better than the front most of the time since they are tilting in with a rack and pinion style of tilt right? So the majority of whats going to go wrong is throttle control causing the rear to slide out. It could just be with the fast food place getting the traffic in and out its draggin debri into that area like the tires will drag debri into a garage. Even more so during rains. Would love to be there for a competition to see who could have the best time from the window to 60 feet down the road. I'm sure Ivangene could be taking bets inside from customers and workers while a bunch of us do round after round trying for better times.
Could be the fly by wire throttle dumping more than wanted fuel by your foot. They are good at that from what I've heard.
Anyway I imagine the uneven surface of parking to main road also helps unsettle the rear. The front tire are going to hang better than the front most of the time since they are tilting in with a rack and pinion style of tilt right? So the majority of whats going to go wrong is throttle control causing the rear to slide out. It could just be with the fast food place getting the traffic in and out its draggin debri into that area like the tires will drag debri into a garage. Even more so during rains. Would love to be there for a competition to see who could have the best time from the window to 60 feet down the road. I'm sure Ivangene could be taking bets inside from customers and workers while a bunch of us do round after round trying for better times.
Could be the fly by wire throttle dumping more than wanted fuel by your foot. They are good at that from what I've heard.
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09-10-2010, 09:19 AM
#8
Keep your learning experiences to a more controlled environment. When you lose control on a public road the chances of other people dealing with the consequences is much higher.
09-10-2010, 11:11 AM
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You are slapping the throttle in a 70 degree turn on greasy public roads, and you are surprised when the rear comes around. Sounds like you need to work on your driving.
09-10-2010, 07:28 PM
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Take it to the track and learn why your car does what it does.
09-10-2010, 07:47 PM
#15
Every time I stop by that restaurant to pick up some take out food, and slam the gas while existing their parking lot and merging into traffic, the rear end enter a massive rear end slide/drifting.
I admit it, I am punching the gas and making a 70 degree turn into traffic, but I am doing the same thing on plenty other intersections and never had any single rear end drift ever.
I went to autocross and no rear drift at all.
I check my tires and nothing leaks on them and they are clean. The only thing I can see if that the surface between the parking lot and the road is very "polished" and it is 2 feet wide. Do you think that explains it ?
I mean does the car enter a drift on the smooth pavement, and then keep on sliding until I release the gas ?
Anyways it is quite fun, but I wouldn't want to have this happening when I don't expect it.
I admit it, I am punching the gas and making a 70 degree turn into traffic, but I am doing the same thing on plenty other intersections
and never had any single rear end drift ever.I went to autocross and no rear drift at all.
I check my tires and nothing leaks on them and they are clean. The only thing I can see if that the surface between the parking lot and the road is very "polished" and it is 2 feet wide. Do you think that explains it ?
I mean does the car enter a drift on the smooth pavement, and then keep on sliding until I release the gas ?
Anyways it is quite fun, but I wouldn't want to have this happening when I don't expect it.
I have heard that MSG in chinese food can cause this phenomenon!!
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