Is the GT3 mkI the most reliable, best handling WC engined Porsche ever built?
06-06-2010, 04:13 PM
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Is the GT3 mkI the most reliable, best handling WC engined Porsche ever built?
My nick says 'Power' but i am all about handling. That's the reason why i bought a Cayman... because of its handling 'Prowess'. However, I won't be keeping the car because of reliability issues with oil smoke upon every cold startup (it didn't matter if the car was driven for long or just for a short trip).
So, now i've become interested on the most reliable water cooled engines from Porsche which equipe some of their best handling cars. Is the 996 GT3 mkI the best example?
So, now i've become interested on the most reliable water cooled engines from Porsche which equipe some of their best handling cars. Is the 996 GT3 mkI the best example?
06-06-2010, 04:37 PM
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C4S is the M96 motor, most likely the worst for reliability. They were plagued with RMS, porus castings and slipped sleeves causing intermix issues, IMS bearing and breaking issues, faulty and shortlived MAF sensors on early models, AOS issues and some I probably missed. Porsche missed it with this, as it's a crapshoot if these motors will last 50k miles without major issues or even 100k without replacement. Once you make it to 100k or 125k you're probably good to go and can relax.
The GT2, GT3 and TT are free for all the above to my knowledge. The TT have their own issues which may be a little disconcerting but not catistrophic. The GT3 is probably the best handling and the most trouble free in my opinion.
The GT2, GT3 and TT are free for all the above to my knowledge. The TT have their own issues which may be a little disconcerting but not catistrophic. The GT3 is probably the best handling and the most trouble free in my opinion.
06-06-2010, 06:23 PM
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Did your cayman actually experience any "reliability" issues?
I read a lot about the problems with 996 reliability, but from my perspective they're some of the most reliable cars on the road. I say that as someone who's good friends with several people that have owned them for years, and acquaintances at shops (independent and otherwise) who work on them, service writers, etc. not to mention seeing them w/out problems on track rather often... Of course my two 996s have been just fine as well. Sold with 9x.xxx and 115.xxx miles, total of about 45k miles covered in them.
I read a lot about the problems with 996 reliability, but from my perspective they're some of the most reliable cars on the road. I say that as someone who's good friends with several people that have owned them for years, and acquaintances at shops (independent and otherwise) who work on them, service writers, etc. not to mention seeing them w/out problems on track rather often... Of course my two 996s have been just fine as well. Sold with 9x.xxx and 115.xxx miles, total of about 45k miles covered in them.
06-06-2010, 06:35 PM
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My nick says 'Power' but i am all about handling. That's the reason why i bought a Cayman... because of its handling 'Prowess'. However, I won't be keeping the car because of reliability issues with oil smoke upon every cold startup (it didn't matter if the car was driven for long or just for a short trip).
So, now i've become interested on the most reliable water cooled engines from Porsche which equipe some of their best handling cars. Is the 996 GT3 mkI the best example?
So, now i've become interested on the most reliable water cooled engines from Porsche which equipe some of their best handling cars. Is the 996 GT3 mkI the best example?
As for the CS vs GT3, it's apples and oranges. If you need a daily driver, you should probably borrow someone's or test drive one. They are not the most comfy Porsche for the street. They are quite low, harsh, and will beat you up a bit on bad roads.
As mentioned, you can't get a 6GT3.1 in the US.
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06-06-2010, 08:37 PM
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C4S is the M96 motor, most likely the worst for reliability. They were plagued with RMS, porus castings and slipped sleeves causing intermix issues, IMS bearing and breaking issues, faulty and shortlived MAF sensors on early models, AOS issues and some I probably missed. Porsche missed it with this, as it's a crapshoot if these motors will last 50k miles without major issues or even 100k without replacement. Once you make it to 100k or 125k you're probably good to go and can relax.
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06-06-2010, 10:39 PM
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Now, that would be the thing for me!!!
As for the Cayman smoke upon EVERY cold startup all i can say is i won't keep a car which does that especially if it was bought second-hand. No sound engine should do that at anything like that rate. Period. BTW, it was a 09 Cayman 2.9.
Competition-derived engines will always be more reliable... is the GT3 the only 996's example? Is there any exception to that in the 996 world?
As for the Cayman smoke upon EVERY cold startup all i can say is i won't keep a car which does that especially if it was bought second-hand. No sound engine should do that at anything like that rate. Period. BTW, it was a 09 Cayman 2.9.
Competition-derived engines will always be more reliable... is the GT3 the only 996's example? Is there any exception to that in the 996 world?