ivangene

that is exactly how I feel about them - like I stated before, if price it not a factor I wont get another set, if it is - these are great tires!!

yours still very new, in about 500 miles they get better, in about 5000 miles they get worse (thru the cones) - street is virtualy the same

Dave!

I actually just had some Sumis (III) put on last friday and I drove in near freezing weather this morning on the highway. I did not have what you're describing at all--the tires were butter smooth--so it could be something else entirely.

fpena944

You're right - it could just be the road I am taking to work every morning and that these tires react to those bumps a little differently.

I'm not sure but I know it works itself out after a couple of minutes and then the ride is quite smooth.

Dave!

There was a road near where I just recently moved from that had invisible "waves" in the pavement. You couldn't see them from the side of the road or when driving but they made it feel like the tires were out of balance.

Try taking a different route to work and see what happens--quick way to eliminate one possibility.

upthesharks

Hi Dream Carrera,

how did your Sumi's go. I am ready to order based on your response.

Cheers

Jason

SLVRBLT

What Conti's is everyone talking about that have worn out around the 10k mark?

Just curious as I have the Conti DW's...

Thanks

DFC

Holy thread resurrection batman! I have sumi IIs on my pcar and have been very happy with them. Actually bought a set of sumi's last year for my bmw 3 series DD. For normal driving they work well and are priced well.

fpena944

Yeah this one is an old one considering I'm on my 2nd set and about to move on to another set of tires!

I might go with the Sumis again but I'm also thinking of trying some Bridgestone tires. The Sumis have been good but just thought with track and autocross events I should try something a little more performance oriented.

Dennis C

I'm getting ready to buy new summer tires too. I tried Sumis, and they weren't bad for the money. However, I'll be moving on to something else. I still haven't decided yet, but I'll probably go back to PS2s.

DreamCarrera

Hi Jason,

I still stand behind what I previously wrote about the Sumis(HTR Z III). I highly recommend them for the money.

The only thing I would add to my earlier comments is that I now believe the Sumis do give about 8/10ths(maybe 9/10ths) of the dry performance of my previous MPS2s, however I believe they actually perform BETTER in the wet than the Michelins and all of this for less than half the price of the MPS2s. Further, I have found their cold weather(below freezing) performance to be a little scary when pushed hard, but these are ultra performance summer tires and should not be expected to perform well in extreme cold.

Unless you absolutely need the bit of extra performance the more expensive tires give you at the limit, I think you will be more than happy with the Sumis. They are quiet, wear well, and after thousands of miles on mine I do not notice any drop off in performance.

Good luck with whatever tire you choose…

Dennis C

I didn't find the wear of the Sumis to be that much better than Michelins. The Sumis were definitely better than the Pirellis in terms of wear. My experience with the Sumis is that they got very loud towards the end of their life.

DreamCarrera

Hi Dennis,

How many miles did you get out of your Sumis and with what type of use?

Sneaky Pete

I had the Sumi 3's for 3 sets. Had them the road and the track. The last set I has on the track I was throwing rubber left and right per the guy behind me. They are a great tire but I wanted more. I bought a set of pilot super sports and the results are amazing. Not much more money but sizes are limited. I agree the Sumi gets very loud when at the end.

Dennis C

Street use only, although that includes some VERY spirited driving on curvy, mountain roads.

I've got about 15K miles on them now. The rears are totally shot. The fronts have some life left, but certainly not another 15K.

For comparison, the Pirelli P-Zero Rossos that were on before the Sumis went about 10K miles in the rear and about 16K in the front.

Lori3657

You got the HTR Z IIIs right? I think the IIs lack the load handling capability for a 996.

Most guys go for the IIIs when it comes to the 996.
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