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Old 01-23-2010, 10:18 PM
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The GT3 shocks & coilovers are expensive and for that money you can get Moton, JRZ's for better money and much more adjustabliltiy in spring rates, rebound & compression settings. As I stated, I have installed the GT3 Lower control arms to reach the 21/2 deg Camber settings that I am now running... as until this season the PCA Stock class did not allow Camber plates. These are a must! But, don't tie up the cash on OEM GT3 shocks, spindles, trailing control arms. sway bars or other Suspension parts from the GT3. The MkI 996 can turn (stock trim) fast laps at any track... But, If you start to push it to the limits... I mean the limits! You will want more! Also, I drive this car on the street and have no issues.
Old 01-23-2010, 11:35 PM
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All good stuff guys!! I asked for it and got it.....opinions across the board. Heavily leaning towards the X74.

ME WANT GO FAST!!
Old 01-24-2010, 12:56 PM
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Did not see your car is a C4. Don't know if the GT3 suspension will work for you.

I would consider PSS10 suspension if you are going to go down the X74 route. Few hundred dollars more for the adjustability to find exactly what you want is worth it. Get it and be done with it.
Old 01-24-2010, 01:03 PM
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I have the C4 with the x-74. For everyday driving the suspension is very compliant, compared to my 997 GT3. For track purpose, the x-74 is much better than the stock set-up. You can't go wrong with the x-74, purchased from Gert.
Old 01-24-2010, 01:24 PM
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I am really enjoying the PSS10 adjustable coilovers. Beyond adjustability, better quality everything than the factory setup, but it does cost more.
Old 01-24-2010, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ROK
I am really enjoying the PSS10 adjustable coilovers. Beyond adjustability, better quality everything than the factory setup, but it does cost more.
I have the ROW 030 vs M030 suspension and it kicks butt... its good enough for the street (wouldn't want it any stiffer) and at the track it absolutely blows away the stock suspension... others in this post have said its feels "soft and spongy"... not the case.. maybe M030 but not ROW 030... big difference between the two... in shock damping and ride height... ROW 030 is more aggressive of the two...

the x74 may be a better choice for a car used 70% at the track and 30% at street... but if your gonna only do 4 DE's a year then ROW 030 is the better setup for you... it comes with shocks, springs, new bump stops and even new sway bars... its a great deal for the $$$...

I also have a GT3 seat in my car 99 C2 and I do about 20 DE per year... I would *not* get X74 cause I know others that have said its too stiff for street.... it feels like a 996 GT3... which is absolutely terrible and tiring to drive in a daily situation.... that's just my opinion though...

if you want sharper handling later you can always buy ROW 030 and then buy the GT3 sway bars...

with your body kit X74 will cause you to scrape your front end cause its a serious drop... where ROW 030 is a more moderate drop...
Old 01-24-2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete
All good stuff guys!! I asked for it and got it.....opinions across the board. Heavily leaning towards the X74.

ME WANT GO FAST!!
I would suggest pss10.... 4 de's, you can set it to stiff. Normal commute... you can have a nice stock ride... plus your wife would still want to ride shot gun. Also, I suggest you get H&R ARBs'.... this is the choice for the turbo guys. I am quite happy with this setup and have the best of both world..... but leaning towards more of a street car and occasional DE.

Its really not that bad as far as setting stiffnes.... the rears are adjustable from the inside and the fronts can be adjusted by a full lock of the steering wheel.
Old 01-24-2010, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cdaniels
X-74......no brainer.....for street and track a good solution......I got it....and love it.....
Originally Posted by russo
I have the C4 with the x-74. For everyday driving the suspension is very compliant, compared to my 997 GT3. For track purpose, the x-74 is much better than the stock set-up. You can't go wrong with the x-74, purchased from Gert.
X74. Got it. Love it.
Old 01-24-2010, 10:11 PM
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Van is right!
His 996 C4 is a daily driver and does DE task very nicely... You should see his video from LRP in the C4. Wish I could turn laps like that...
Old 01-24-2010, 10:24 PM
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There is a big difference between ROW 030 and X74.

The x74 is pretty stiff for the street (much stiffer in my experience than PSS9/PSS10), but you'll wish it was a little stiffer on the track.

Not a bad choice for a dual use car IMHO.
Old 01-25-2010, 06:09 PM
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Another vote for X74. Got it, love it. I use mine on both street and track. With X74, rough pavement feels rough, but the car never bottoms out or hits the bumpstops. On smooth pavement, X74 feels like heaven. On the track, X74 is plenty good for 99% of drivers. And now that I also have front control arms for more negative camber, the only thing limiting my performance on the track is talent.
Old 01-25-2010, 10:36 PM
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Dammit.....more good feedback. Year end bonus comes this week...hate to say it but that will make the decision.

Keep you all posted!
Old 01-25-2010, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CWhaley
Van is right!
His 996 C4 is a daily driver and does DE task very nicely... You should see his video from LRP in the C4. Wish I could turn laps like that...
Awww... you're too kind.

But, because I like to show off...

Old 01-26-2010, 12:32 AM
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I had the M030 and then went to the X74. The swith was well worth it. Much better on the track and not bad as a daily driver. I also added GT3 bars with adjustable drop links and adjustable rear control links.

I miss that car.
Old 01-26-2010, 03:37 AM
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I didn't think they make x74 for MKI. I thought they were only available for MKII. Do you just order the MKII ones and install them on a MKI?


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