RallyJon

C4S with winter tires is fine in snow, but the winter tires are key. I'd rather drive a C2 with good snow tires in the snow than a C4 with summer tires.

Black TT

I have not driven both at speed. I have only driven the turbo models to date. That would create another discussion which I am sure has been done!

You are right about the engines. Since both are S models, the 997 is the 3.8 vs the 3.6 and therefore 35 more HP. Figured the gap was closed somewhat with the headers/exhaust upgrade.

It seems like there is about $10K for each year difference so similiar models with mileage/options the same are about $10K apart starting in 2004 and going through 2008. Mileage seems to be the big player in the formula.

Thanks for the discussion, Mike

tooloud10

Mine's only a C4, but I absolutely agree. It's virtually unstoppable with winter tires installed.

Nice choice, BTW--you've actually got a relatively rare car...the elusive '05 C4S. Enjoy!

s_kelly

...Nice problem to have, BTW.

medtech

Check out the Porsche Winter Driving School. I think it's in Iceland. All 4s and 4Ss on a track made of snow and ice.

The 4S is a great car. You can't go wrong with that choice.

Black TT

Thanks for all the input. I will let you know what I think when it arrives next Wed. Getting a fluff and buff before the trip!!

Psycho Sid

Congrats

Psycho Sid

The guys I know up here (Montreal, Toronto, New York) who have a C4S or Turbo don't use it in winter, between the salt, snow mixed with gravel bits, extreme temperature difference between your garage and outside plus people in general driving/sliding around like morons it's not something I would want to expose my C4S to (now if it was in Aspen it would be a different story)!

That said, I know a lot of C4S owners use it in the winter because they don't have another choice or because their winters are very mild.

Anyway that's my 5 cents, " Just because you can, doesn't mean you should"...

Cheers,

Sid.

RallyJon

That's don't want another choice. I had a <1000 mile a year Porsche. Now I get to drive one every day.

gota911

Jon,

Good for you! Glad you woke up.

Is there something in the water in PA that keeps owners from driving their Porsche? There is another guy in PA that never drove his car. What's his name again? I think it started with a "P".....

Black TT

I do not plan on driving it in the snow, but if the mood strikes, I will. Now have to look for wheels/tires....Just out of curiosity, are sport seats a desirable option? I have them on my 993 turbo, and really liked them but have heard comments that they are uncomfortable for some people. How about the aero kit? Is that something to add to a C4S and have the cost returned when you sell it?

mtl911sc

Big +1 to that.

I actually unloaded one of our cars so that the C4S could get driven more all year round.

I personally fail to see the point of opting for AWD if the weather's always dry, but I also never agreed with the whole "RWD is bad for winter" thing either. I had a Lexus IS300 and a BMW 3-series a few years back which were both just fine in the worst of winter. It's all a matter of adjusting your driving style.

Besides, what about all those with their $100k + (CAD) Range Rovers, M-B S500s...and Cayennes? They have as much or more money into their cars and are subjecting them to all that winter has to offer.

So Sid, if & when you see a Seal Gray C4S driving around with a xxx VSM license plate, that'll be me - very nice ride you have btw.

Psycho Sid

Listen guys, when it's nice ( the roads are clean ) like today I have mine for out fore sure!!!

But when it snows I take my Benz SUV, not because it's worth less than my C4S or because the Porsche can't handle it (unless there's too much snow then it would turn in to a snowplow) but because I really don't see the enjoyment in driving my C4S when everyone is slipping & sliding and you have to worry about some A-hole bumping into you when they park (which they do!), that will just get me into trouble

I love the C4S because of it's handling (which is very different than the C2S) and of course it's looks!!!!!

But like I said that's just my take on it, no need to take it personally Jon, if my comment doesn't apply to you there's really no need to defend it.

Mtl911sc, I'm sure you took your C4S out today as well, I'll keep an eye out for ya, I'll be the big guy with the big mouth and loud Porsche, you can't miss me!

Cheers,

Sid.

Psycho Sid

Whatever you spend in customizing will be purely for your own enjoyment you'll probably never see a penny back of it when you resell, it may make it easier to sell (versus a stock car) but then again it may not be to everyones taste...

I say you live once, so do whatever makes you happy, be it stock or customized you've got yourself a hell of a ride, CONGRATS!

Enjoy,

Sid.

mtl911sc

Double +1 to that.

If my car was as tight as yours Sid, I probably wouldn't subject it to our winters either. Some even say the older 911s are great in the winter, but I just couldn't do it to my old SC. As far as I know she's a virgin & I'd like to keep her that way