So, when you are NOT shifting, the throttle responds differently then when you ARE shifting (clutch pedal switch open)? Why?

 

Right; was calling it partial instead of mini like Hambisa

So it sounds like it summarizes this way:

- Underbody kit removes forward/backward travel
- Console kit removes side/side and forward/backward travel

That’s the only difference?

 

The most sensible reason that I saw cited was improved clutch wear for sloppily shifting drivers.

Note that the thing seems to have one effect while rolling away in first and a different effect while upshifting to higher gears.

FWIW, I disabled the thing for a day or so and learned that I was lifting my foot off the gas too slowly when shifting, which the switch was masking. Essentially, the switch was apparently compensating for my ham-fisted footwork by killing throttle response for me while I shifted. I un-disabled the switch and started lifting my foot off the gas earlier. The effect of the switch is much less. However, it's still significantly easier to rev match on downshift with the switch disabled. In the end I decided that the switch was there for a reason so I might as well just leave it as it was delivered.

Bottom line is it's a 1 minute process to disable the switch and a 10 second process to un-disable it. Far more efficient to try it for yourself than to attempt to decide whether or not it's worth trying.

 

So, the guys who removed their clutch helper springs and sacrificed cruise control are stuck with a switch open all the time - messing up the throttle response?

 

Ok then I believe this....it defintely has no delay when you are shifting fast in 3rd-5th.

 

I don't get this. I've always been a pretty smooth stick shift driver--until drive-by-wire came along. I've never been able to shift my wife's S4 well, even after the chip, which helped a lot. You roll off the clutch and back into the throttle... and it either comes on too fast, or there's a big dead spot and you lurch forward.

And now the 996. From the off-idle dead spot, to the v-tec changeover at ~3100 rpm, to the ECU that's trying to outthink me, no wonder I can't drive this car smoothly. Of course, the minute I'm going more than half throttle, and upshifting above 4000 rpm, everything suddenly becomes smooth and intuitive.

Yeah, yeah, I know it's a Porsche, but I have to drive non-car-people around from time to time. It's pretty lame that Porsche couldn't engineer some low speed manners into this thing.

 

yeah jon ↑.
i dont like the drive by wire system. there is nothing like the feel of a real connection between the foot and throttle. tip in is weird, its like pushing a hammer through butter when your used to a knife.
and we never really know what the ecu is doing with all its 00000100101010101010's

 

I checked with AWE and they confirmed that the kit will work with 99-01 cars as well. That's a pretty good clearance price. Anyone have instructions on how to install? How easy? The sales guy said it should not take more than 2 hrs to install, but easier with a lift...

 

What's the clearance price $223?

 

$65

I searched around, and it's not clear to me why this approach is so out of favor. Installation is one factor, but how does it compare--functionally and feel--to a short shift lever?

 

Jon - its $223 on the AWE site; can you link the $65 kit?

 

Yeah that's the question -- I'm not so much concerned with throw but I'd really like to eliminate the play in the mechanism.

 

Hmm, looks like AWE responded rapidly to a shift in demand. I bet they had a dozen of these sitting on the shelf gathering dust until yesterday.

 

I saw that. I'm gonna call them about that; I still had a link open in another tab of their site from yesterday with $65 on there. That sucks of them, regardless of it "just doing business".

 

Much more likely they just ran out, and it's a pretty rare retailer who will extend clearance pricing to something they need to order in.