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Old 06-18-2009, 05:23 PM
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Your car has a sweet looking rear end....perhaps someone got fresh with it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvuY1nO27Go







I'm sorry...I couldn't resist.
Old 06-18-2009, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mfletch
Your car has a sweet looking rear end....perhaps someone got fresh with it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvuY1nO27Go







I'm sorry...I couldn't resist.
It's always the Porsche owners on the 'left' coast that have to drag it into the mud!
Old 06-18-2009, 07:37 PM
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the prob is that the filler tube is long... big delta in temp inside and outside of the tube... thus condensation mix with oil fumes = white gunk.
Old 06-18-2009, 08:04 PM
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I thought P-cars were for guys compensating for short filler tubes???


Old 06-18-2009, 09:42 PM
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Steve and Ed, I knew that I could count on you guys to join in on the fun.
Old 06-18-2009, 10:19 PM
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yea, that was funny... too bad the guy is from right here in my state....We drove thru that town (small town) with the PCA road tour last year.... I am going to go wash my car again, and again
Old 06-18-2009, 11:09 PM
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Anyone ever own a VW Beetle? In my 1965 a half CUP of cream in the oil filler was not unusal during a cool wet spring.
Old 06-18-2009, 11:50 PM
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I owned 4 bugs, 69', 77', 60', and a 73'

they are all air cooled, they dont have oil
Old 06-18-2009, 11:53 PM
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Ed, if he loved his bug, imagine how much he would love your car....makes you want to have it wrapped.
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<laughing really hard>
Old 06-19-2009, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Gibney
Thanks Ivan.

I can do most tech work -- but am unbearably slow! Was a pro tech on Alfa's and Fiats about 30 years ago -- that WAS interesting.

Just did a search on AOS and saw the following -- seems to cover the subject well...

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The Engine oil air separator directly affects the engine crankcase atmosphere because basically all Porsches from 1980 on including the current 986-987-996-997-Caymen & Cayenne engines are all positive crankcase type systems meaning the engine crankcase has vacuum supplied from the intake manifold to collect and burn the residual combustion by-products or blow-by in the crankcase by running it through the engine again, basically to lower the overall vehicle emissions.

On most occasions, when the oil separator fails, intake vacuum in the engine crankcase rises to an unusually or abnormal rate and more likely than not ends up drawing engine oil into the intake system usually fouling spark plugs and even possibly causing damage to the oxygen sensors (O2), catalytic convertors and even possibly various other sensitive fuel injection components.

Interestingly enough, the only way to test the oil separator is to periodically test the engine crankcase vacuum with a water filled Monometer AKA an ultrasensitive vacuum gauge. On BMW’s and Porsche’s, the engine crankcase vacuum is normally around 4-7” (Inches) of water. When these oil separators fail the crankcase vacuum can rise to 9-12” and even higher depending on the extent of the failure.

When the oil separator is starting to fail on Boxsters (986-987), generally you will start to see a substantial amount of smoke from the exhaust tailpipe. When the oil separator finally fails, the engine exhaust smoke can reach dangerous proportions that almost look like it was manufactured from an anti-mosquito smoke machine. Unusually enough, on the 999-997’s, when the oil separator fails, it hardly ever creates any exhaust tailpipe smoke, almost being like a silent killer or costly surprise.

On another note, it has been known on rare occasions, that when an oil separator fails that it is possible to cause or create a slightly rich running condition that might turn on the check engine light or CEL.

The only way to know what is/was happening is to check the fuel trim numbers on the OBD-II “Freeze Frame” data and crankcase vacuum to see exactly what’s going on, otherwise your just guessing.

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So tomorrow I will see what the vacuum is like and will get back to you -- will see if I can get a photo.

Changing the AOS will be an interesting job -- strange that I look forward to the job -- when the "proper" outcome would be for there to be no problem.

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Not to sound alarmist but are you certain the head gaskets are ok???
Old 06-20-2009, 06:13 AM
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Hi -- I have got some photo's but can't for the life of me upload them -- one photo has got there "as an attachment" but I can't tag it to a reply -- the other photo -- same camera same time atc' "fails to upload" -- and there is zip in the FAQ section

Any "idiot's guide" help available?
Old 06-20-2009, 11:06 AM
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These are Tim's - I copied them so credit is his - not mine


You don't have to have your member number to post pics in the Forums. In fact, you don't even haveto be a Member to post pics in teh Forums. Are you trying to upload pics to Rennlist as a hosting site?

You don't need to do that to post pics here. Just follow the instructions below and you will be able to post pics on the Forum. I will NOT let you fail at postinig pics!

Here are my "can't miss" instructions for posting a pic. These instructions have NEVER failed to help someone post pics, so the pressure is on YOU to keep my string alive!

All words shown in BOLD indicate buttons. If you are just doing a "Quick Reply" you will have to click on Go Advanced button. Then follow the steps below:

Down below the part of the screen where you type the text and below the Submit Reply, the Preview Post, and Spell Check buttons, there is a Miscellaneous Options section followed by an Attach Files section.

In the Attach Files section, click on the Manage Attachments button.

You will now get a pop-up window. There are 3 buttons Browse, Upload, and Close this Window.

Click on the Browse button and now (in a new pop-up window) you can search on your PC to locate the pic you want to attach. Click on the name of the file you want and then click the Open button. Now click on the Upload button. After the file has been uploaded, you can click on Browse button and repeat the process to upload another pic or click on the Close this Window button.

After you click on the Close this Window, you will be back to the original "message" screen. Your pic file should be listed just above the Manage Attachments button.

If you are finished typing the text, you can click on the Submit Reply button and everyone will be able to see your great looking P-car!

If your pics are too large, you can resize them with MS Paint, or PhotoShop software, or you can do it online at this web site. http://www.resize2mail.com/
Old 06-20-2009, 12:13 PM
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This is a picture of the inside of the cap -- the moisture can be seen.

The pic I have of the "cream" will not upload -- so will get a fresh pic tomorrow

If this pic appears it will be my first!
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Old 06-20-2009, 12:32 PM
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Thanks for the tip about resizing -- that did the trick -- I think

This is the cream shot!
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