Hood damaged by Cement Company
#33
Nordschleife Master
That was also one of the best recommendations I received when I started lurking around here.
#36
Nordschleife Master
[QUOTE=jasper;5439456]
No!!!!!!!
Ready mix....
Concrete is what it is when it is in place and set!!!! If you want to great REALLY technical.
But you are right that it is definitely not cement.
This is one of the Man laws about knowing the difference. #782 adopted in 1978.
Ready mix....
Concrete is what it is when it is in place and set!!!! If you want to great REALLY technical.
But you are right that it is definitely not cement.
This is one of the Man laws about knowing the difference. #782 adopted in 1978.
#37
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No, actually I didn't call the police when my windshield was broken by gravel from a gravel truck. Why would I? At least here in California, the police have better things to do with their time. If I called the dispatcher with this story, I'd be laughed at.
I got the company name and license number from the truck and called my insurance company. They paid for a new windshield. Maybe they went after the trucking company, I don't know nor do I care.
I got the company name and license number from the truck and called my insurance company. They paid for a new windshield. Maybe they went after the trucking company, I don't know nor do I care.
#38
Team Owner
I then read your comments about wanting to turn your car into a track car and pocket the check and I shake my head even more. If you care about getting the money, then it should be to fix your car, not to pocket and use for track expenses, that just seems a little shallow to me considering that the entire incident was avoidable and (in your own words) you watched KNOWING it was going to happen.
I didn't feel bad about wasting the dealer's time as up to that point, I had gotten all of my work done there--including a new engine less than six months prior.
#39
Nordschleife Master
I have to disagree with you on that point. An old man struck the front of my 996 at a gas station about a year ago, causing a 3/4" scratch on the front bumper. I got an estimate to fix it from the local Porsche dealer, turned it into his insurance company, and pocketed the $600 check without fixing the damage. I don't think it's remotely unethical to use the money I receive from someone damaging my property to do with what I like.
I didn't feel bad about wasting the dealer's time as up to that point, I had gotten all of my work done there--including a new engine less than six months prior.
I didn't feel bad about wasting the dealer's time as up to that point, I had gotten all of my work done there--including a new engine less than six months prior.
#40
I believe that, in accepting money for damages, there is absolutely no implication that one is going to spend that money on repairing said damages.
In my code of ethics, if my Porsche is harmed by someone else's negligence, then I am due compensation for the reduced value that results. What I do with that compensation .... spend it to fix my car, or save it and accept the state of reduced value .... is legally and ethically my option. In accepting an insurance settlement, one only agrees that such settlement is sufficient compensation. One does not commit to any specific course of action with that money.
#41
Nordschleife Master
No quibbling with your code of ethics .... just with your logic.
I believe that, in accepting money for damages, there is absolutely no implication that one is going to spend that money on repairing said damages.
In my code of ethics, if my Porsche is harmed by someone else's negligence, then I am due compensation for the reduced value that results. What I do with that compensation .... spend it to fix my car, or save it and accept the state of reduced value .... is legally and ethically my option. In accepting an insurance settlement, one only agrees that such settlement is sufficient compensation. One does not commit to any specific course of action with that money.
I believe that, in accepting money for damages, there is absolutely no implication that one is going to spend that money on repairing said damages.
In my code of ethics, if my Porsche is harmed by someone else's negligence, then I am due compensation for the reduced value that results. What I do with that compensation .... spend it to fix my car, or save it and accept the state of reduced value .... is legally and ethically my option. In accepting an insurance settlement, one only agrees that such settlement is sufficient compensation. One does not commit to any specific course of action with that money.
To me it's not about money or retribution, it's about putting right damage. If I didn't care about the damage, then I wouldn't go through the hassle of collecting the money.
If something is easily fixed for next to no money, then why should I care about the money?
In this particular case it appears that the damage is easily fixed with a $6 bottle of scratch remover and a little wax - personally I'd make sure that the negligent driver got torn a new one, then I'd just get out my detailing kit and fix it myself. Money is not a necessary component to the transaction.
Honestly, for the hassle and grief involved the money is worth nothing to me. My time is worth way more than I'd recoup. It's all about righting a wrong/fixing damage - To me, that's all that matters.
#42
For example: years ago when I was in southeast Asia for the unpleasantness there, I bought my wife a beautiful ring. Upon return to the states, we had it appraised and insured accordingly.
Fast forward several years: I've left the service and am struggling to feed my family while waiting for an airline to hire me. The ring disappears one day, and is covered by my insurance policy for replacement value. A big check comes in the mail, and where does it go? Certainly not to buy a ring, but to buy groceries, and pay off the obstetrician's bill.
Was it "worth the hassle" of collecting the money? You better believe it. Did we use the money to "put right" the loss? Not on your life. It was our money, and we used it for the things that were a priority in our life at that moment. No "retribution" .... just spending money rightfully ours on the things important to us. I would have made exactly the same decision had the money come from someone dropping ready mix on the old beater Volvo we drove at the time, assuming it remained driveable.
If your life has always been so uncomplicated as not to be faced with such decisions, I am happy for you. Not many are so fortunate.
#43
Nordschleife Master
My comments were directed solely towards the circumstances where a 3rd party inflicts damage upon your property.
Not all cases are the same, but the principle is. Please do not read more into my words than is intended and do not twist them to suit your own mindset.
#45
Three Wheelin'
[QUOTE=Eharrison;5439671]
From where I sit it's fresh concrete before it's set and hardened concrete after. Ready-mix is a special albeit common form of fresh concrete.
Look at it this way, say you were living next door to the OP, and you were mixing up some concrete in your mixer at home so you could build a garage. Then lets say you had one too many beers and ended up splashing your neighbours hood while you were tipping your mix into your forms.
The next day you wouldn't be apologizing for getting ready-mix on his car would you? Ready Mix is so-called because it comes delivered to the work site ready to place.
Yes, I agree that it was ready-mixed concrete on his car, but it was concrete first, and Ready Mix second.
edit: and yes - any self respecting male should know the difference between cement and concrete.
Look at it this way, say you were living next door to the OP, and you were mixing up some concrete in your mixer at home so you could build a garage. Then lets say you had one too many beers and ended up splashing your neighbours hood while you were tipping your mix into your forms.
The next day you wouldn't be apologizing for getting ready-mix on his car would you? Ready Mix is so-called because it comes delivered to the work site ready to place.
Yes, I agree that it was ready-mixed concrete on his car, but it was concrete first, and Ready Mix second.
edit: and yes - any self respecting male should know the difference between cement and concrete.
Last edited by jasper; 05-23-2008 at 07:59 PM.