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Chad It is good to hear that you will be removing all those rivets, and have it TIG-welded...This is what I was going to have done at a friends shop, those hinges are a lot better!

as for the attitude I think that if you look at your first pic of your garage mod and then look at this last pic that you posted.... what a difference in quality....I think people were trying to watch your back and you seem to attack them IMHO

Chads996

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This is a prototype that was completed for an event this weekend. The pan was modified as suggested by a former Joest Racing lead technician / engineer. Everything I did...including where I got the parts...were his suggestion.

To be sure that everything would be ok, I had the lead fabricator / engineer at J3 Motorsports examine the baffles to confirm that it would be ok. Confirmed to the point that they took their own measurements to fabricate their own. We will be continuing the development on Monday.

My "attack" was not an attack, but a defense. I research this stuff to the nth degree. 99% of my suggestions are based on hard facts that I have gathered over the years through research, learning from pro's and putting the pieces together. FWIW - I am a closet mechanic that has done everything from engine bottom end rebuild to full suspension and adjustment. And...I am an industrial designer of 15 years with mechanical engineering study background.

The wise man asks questions in order to learn. This is what I have done. The remarks of "homebrew DIY" was an assumption to what was done were not needed and therefore needed to be addressed. I did so.

C.

mclaudio

Can anybody please shed some light on the difference between the Brey-Krause kit and the X51 kit?

Benjamin Choi

But it is homebrew, fellas. How will this "solution" be proven to work? It's not like Chad's going to be tracking his car on slicks enough times and it's not like you can have tools/time/resources to peer into that engine block on high G turns.

And the sampling is on just ONE car.

It is completely homebrew.

Chads996

Sure...glad to.

The BK kit includes a spacer for the OE oil pan. It simply lowers than pan. Doing so increases the oil capacity. There is another setup that is a little better that is built by Mantissport Racing. Their setup has not only a spacer, but an extension for the sump pickup.

The X51 is an OE pan that simply has a larger baffle system on it. It allows for a marginal increase in oil near the sump intake over the stock baffles.

Hope that helps.

C.

karlooz

i'll be tracking with slicks this year in NASA time trials. i have proper data acquisition (it will be sampling oil pressure at 60 Hz so we'll all be able to see if slicks are a no no with the 996. the big question is will the 996 hold up on a high banked oval. i won't be testing on any of those kinds of tracks.

gota911

Paul,

I posted a link to the part number but Chad said it was the stock baffle, not the X-51 baffle, so I deleted (removed) the link to the stock baffle.

Benjamin Choi

so a high banked oval... like the one on the california speedway? i remember seeing a doug hayashi video of www.nsxfiles.com fame (great guy) running his f355 against some super exotic ferraris .... awesome vid and they were going all out in the high banked oval but for just one turn i believe at WOT.

so cool

karlooz

no high banked ovals for me. just laguna seca, buttonwillow, sears point and thunderhill. proper road courses.

bk12

Loren,

You mention that late MY996 had the 997 windage tray...the OP had that tray installed in his 02 996...can you confirm that the "stock" tray pictured in the OP didn't come in all 3.6L (thinking maybe this was a reman motor in the 02?)?

Thanks! Great thread!

Stefan Richter

What about a recent reman. 3.4l?

Stefan

Ray S

The BK kit is just a spacer to allow the pan to hold more oil. Personally, I think it's a bad idea. If you look at the pics in this thread you can see that Porsche went to great lengths to manufacture a system that would position the oil pickup right at the base of the pan. With the BK kit you will thow all of that work out the window by moving the base of the pan away from the pickup.

The above is my "opinion". I am not an automotive engineer.

Ray S

Chad,

Can you post a picture of the O.E. tray/baffles from your 3.4?

Chads996

Sorry Ray...they are gone. I'll see if the shop has them on Monday.

C.

Paul 996

As far as I can tell via dealers and Loren... the new stock baffle with a 997 part # is the same as the x51 baffle pictured. And you can order just the baffle itself at a considerable savings.

I can't say which engines have the new x51 baffles as stock other than the 997s. But what I can say is if you order a new baffle for your 3.4/3.6 996 you will receive the new x51/997 baffle.

I have 3 of these inbound to me for me and 2 friends.

-Paul