4-large

See so I am glad I posted and maybe will save some $$$ for others
No brainer at $30

thanks Paul 996

Jerry

karlooz

so this is what i am talking about. i agree, it's a better seal to the case but to slow down the movement of oil a smaller area would be better than a larger area.

hwk72

That's what I like about this forum: there's so much disenchantment of Porsche marketing

Thanks for posting guys!

karlooz

so you can buy the windage tray separately from the pan!?!!? way cool if you can.

4-large

so this is what i am talking about. i agree, it's a better seal to the case but to slow down the movement of oil a smaller area would be better than a larger area.

That area In red is not 25%,
Look were it hits, It makes a little cubby and the rubber is a better seal than the notches in the plastic that just get close to the block.....
I think Porsche did this so oil would not go with the G force... the plastic had gaps that the oil was forced through, this is a better seal not 100%,

Jerry

karlooz

i said ~25% meaning 25% ish. i didn't even add the volume the the large radii on the plastic version has. the plastic version is also a tad narrower than the x51 and there's also a sliver of an area that i did not include. we're nitpicking here but i think you get my gist... it's more volume and, i am proposing, more oil is better than less.
true the baffle is to create a more controlled oiling situation when cornering. because the x51 tray seals off to the case, there is no opportunity for the oil to bypass the oil pickup area, as it does with the plastic version.

one thing i would consider doing is enlarging the holes so the oil doesn't have to climb over the tall walls. then use a bigger metal door to seal it off.

actually, if i had to do it again, i would just use the plastic version but seal off the area behind it. (just thinking out loud)

jasper

Nice thread - love the tip about buying just the windage tray for $30 - a no brainer indeed. Now, am I observing that the increase in volume is fore-aft? Certainly there would be less chance of sustained g-force in this direction compared to side to side. Or am I just confused?

Duane993

The one thing that really sucks about this is that Porsche could have included this for about $5 extra per car if they did it right in the first place

Chads996

Jeezus guys..like I said already in my mod thread. All of what I have done has been approved by race technicians. So much so, that my modification is being copied for fabrication by J3 Motorsports in Buford, GA.

It has been checked, measured and confirmed 2x. The issue is over and is installed in my car.

Do what you feel like in your own. Track use puts a higher amount of heat, strain and pressure on your car. My philosphy is VERY simple. A properly setup car is ALWAYS the way to go. I always ask questions to those that have the experience to answer properly. Not just a guess.

Do what you will. I will continue in the process I have begun. Next up for me? 3rd radiator with nose slots cut out on the front fascia.

C.

Chads996

What I will confirm is a modification to the stock baffles. Same thing is done. Removal of the rubber doors, cutting larger access holes, replacing with metal doors and expanding the width portion. My reasoning for going with the X51 was simply due to the metal. With the chemical properties and the heat involved, metal was the better choice for me.

Besides $250 is cheap in the grand scheme of parts for these cars.

C.

Chads996

Great solution Paul. Good find. If your pan is perfectly fine, bolting the baffles on is a perfect solution.

I still recommend the metal door modifications.

C.

wxseed

4 large can you give an idea of how difficult it was to remove the pan, did you have to leverage it to brake the gasket / sealant loose, if so any advice to make the job go smoothly. Also, I think B&M make a thicker gasket for the pan and the windage tray to increase volume ...

gota911

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Chads996

Tim, that's the stock bulkhead / baffles. Not the updated one. Correction: Not the motorsports one

C.

gota911

Sorry, my bad I have deleted the link.