996 Tiptronic - what do manual owners think?
#16
You know Tim that was a year ago...I had a change of heart and since I cruise more than really drive...so a tip is the prefect car for me....sure I would like for Porsche to make a better system....
I would buy a tip again. Honestly!!
I would buy a tip again. Honestly!!
#17
Drifting
We've got a Boxster that we have had over 5 years and it's a Tip. I drove it more than my wife and it replaced her Corvette so it was actually her car. She didn't like me racking up miles on it so she pleaded with me to get my own. I did over 4 years ago and it was a 996 Cab with the 6 speed. Still own it and I could go either Tip or manual, each is nice for a change after driving the other.
#18
Three Wheelin'
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NEast Florida
Posts: 1,521
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Love my Tip, but at times wish I had a stick.
Only problem is the Tip tends to upshift way too early, to get better gas economy apparently.
You gotta keep tapping the shifter down one gear most of the time when in traffic.
Only problem is the Tip tends to upshift way too early, to get better gas economy apparently.
You gotta keep tapping the shifter down one gear most of the time when in traffic.
#19
Three Wheelin'
I wouldn't consider a tip. I hear they're great and all, but really how hard is it to use a clutch? I deal with a fair bit of traffic in my daily commute, but not once have I wished for a clutchless car. In fact when I do drive automatics (rentals etc) it bugs me. I'm always slipping into neutral so I don't have to constantly ride the brake, when I try to accelerate briskly but smoothly it'll kick into a lower gear, or it won't when I want it to.... BAH!
I prefer to change gears when I want to change gears, not sooner, not later, but when I decide it's time.
That's just me though. If you don't care, then buy a tip.
I prefer to change gears when I want to change gears, not sooner, not later, but when I decide it's time.
That's just me though. If you don't care, then buy a tip.
#20
Nordschleife Master
If my car was a commuter car I'd go for a tip. But since its a weekend car I'm sticking with a 6spd. I've driven my car to work a couple of times and I know for a fact that LA traffic is not manual friendly. It actually gets annoying. I do know now that I can idle the car at 6 miles an hour and nothing slower orI have to engage the clutch...
#21
I thought (correct me if I am wrong), that the Tiptronic is a true automatic transmission. Personally I like the connected feeling of a manual though recently drove an Audi with the SMG style (do not recall right now what Audi calls it) transmission. These, as well as the ones in the BMW M series, are actually manual transmissions with the clutch controlled via computer (just like an F1 car which are NOT automatic transmissions in the normal sense of the term). Thus with the SMG you get the best of both worlds, not even a close comparison from my experience to a Tip...
#22
Team Owner
I'll take a clutchless manual with shift paddles. Unfortunately, that's not what the 996 has...
#23
you are right, but still there is no clutch to press with your foot.....and I agree there is no "lag" from the moment you use the pedal shifter compared to the buttons on the Porsche. I would like the system to be a little more direct...but when I put my foot down the P launches and keep on going! I don't like the fact that it doesn't react faster when you want to corner....you actually need to go to "manual" to get the right gear before the corner. What I like in my BMW X5 is that you have 2 settings..sport and regular...Porsche should have 3 settings....regular, sport and "mountain roads with a lot of corners".... or yes just go for the real paddle shifters like in all real sportcars.....I forgot the 996 isn't a real Porsche
#24
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 825
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've been doing some more research on this, including reading the Market Update in Excellence. According to Bruce Anderson, the Tips are less prone to RMS failure?
Also, it seems there were some significant improvements in the Tiptronic system in 2002+ (the range of years I'm shopping).
Also, it seems there were some significant improvements in the Tiptronic system in 2002+ (the range of years I'm shopping).
#25
Rennlist Member
All of my Porsche's have been manuals as well as the lone Ferrari I had. My TT tip is a stunningly good car, and to be honest, I will never go back to manual. The only change I have made is changing the steering wheel to the RUF with paddle shift.
The only downside is you have five gears instead of six.
#26
Rennlist Member
What the tip does miss is the far quicker changes compared to the DSG etc and an additional gear (5 speed versus 6), but compared to a human of average driving skills, I would say driving takes a new depth with a tip as you can really improve drivng line and braking points. Maybe once my driving improves I may go back to a 6 speed for daily use...
#27
Race Car
#28
Tiptronic is just Porsche's take on automatic - BMW call it steptronic etc. Not to be confused with BMW M5 / Aston / Ferarri / F1 type paddle semi-automatics. Very different.
Now when Porsche start using the VW / Audi DSG system that will be step forward. And there are about to.
Until then I wouldn't buy a tip - have tried them in 993 and 996 guise but couldn't get on with them.
Now when Porsche start using the VW / Audi DSG system that will be step forward. And there are about to.
Until then I wouldn't buy a tip - have tried them in 993 and 996 guise but couldn't get on with them.
#29
Rennlist Member
Tiptronic is just Porsche's take on automatic - BMW call it steptronic etc. Not to be confused with BMW M5 / Aston / Ferarri / F1 type paddle semi-automatics. Very different.
Now when Porsche start using the VW / Audi DSG system that will be step forward. And there are about to.
Until then I wouldn't buy a tip - have tried them in 993 and 996 guise but couldn't get on with them.
Now when Porsche start using the VW / Audi DSG system that will be step forward. And there are about to.
Until then I wouldn't buy a tip - have tried them in 993 and 996 guise but couldn't get on with them.
Either way I must admit that as soon as the Porsche version of the DSG comes out, it will render tiptronic absolutely pointless.... and I for one will definitely be getting it. In the meantime, I still stand by the opinion that Tip works incredibly well in a daily driver and as a track machine for those with average driving skills, and the RUF wheel is the one thing that any Tip owner should consider saving for.
#30
Rennlist Member
From a guy who owns a manual 964 I really look down on myself when driving my tip 996. I mean, there I am driving around in daily traffic talking on the phone, AC blowing my hair, sipping my double latte(no fat) waving at my friends and just generally having a good time.....I hate that guy