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Old 07-21-2007 | 12:52 PM
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Dealer calls me that I need to do some airbag test (done every two years)... have you heard about this?

Also, tells me I need a Brake Flush (supposed to be dome very two years as well)... isn't that done as part of 30K miles

Car is 2003 with 39K miles on it.

should I do these?
Old 07-21-2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dutchie in NC
Dealer calls me that I need to do some airbag test (done every two years)... have you heard about this?

Also, tells me I need a Brake Flush (supposed to be dome very two years as well)... isn't that done as part of 30K miles

Car is 2003 with 39K miles on it.

should I do these?

BS on airbag - should be inspected/replaced every 10 years.

Brake flush sounds excessive, but I can't put my hands on the schedule.... should be in the manual.
Old 07-21-2007 | 12:59 PM
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looked on renntech... believe they mention brake flush every two years
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I checked my manual - every 2 years is what it states. Seems excessive if you're not putting too many miles on the car.
Old 07-21-2007 | 01:32 PM
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BS on airbag

Brake flush every two years is a good idea (if you don't track). With track use flushes should be more frequent.
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Originally Posted by Dutchie in NC
Dealer calls me that I need to do some airbag test (done every two years)... have you heard about this?

Also, tells me I need a Brake Flush (supposed to be dome very two years as well)... isn't that done as part of 30K miles

Car is 2003 with 39K miles on it.

should I do these?
BS on the air bag test. Tell them they are air bags! < hee hee>

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Brake flush every two years is a good idea (if you don't track). With track use flushes should be more frequent.
I agree with Ray. Brake flush every 2 years especially if you DON't track the car. Water has a tendancy to get in the brake fluid, so this is good preventative maintenance. I had Hendrick do a Brake Flush about 4 - 5 months ago.
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Just flush the fluid at every other pad change.

BS on the airbag !
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Okay, so if I do 5K per year and don't take my car out in the rain, then why should I be changing the fluid every 10K? Doens't make a lot of sense to me.
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drop your dealer! They sound money hungry!
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drop your dealer! They sound money hungry!
I tend to agree. If they pull a stunt like this, then you don't know when they're telling you the truth and when they're trying to up-sell on a service.

The first time a dealer does something like this to me I get annoyed. The second time they do it I find another placed to take my car.
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Wayne - brake fluid absorbs moisture, which in turn will lower the boiling point of the brake fluid by as much as 30%. The excess water moisture can cause valves to corrode and stick. The moisture can create a rusty sludge that can clog the valves and pistons in the brake system.

http://www.brakefluidtester.com/downloads/clean.PDF
http://www.type2.com/library/brakes/brakef.htm
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Thanks for the links Tim. The second one is particularly useful. I was hoping for an indicator of when the fluid needed changing and I liked the dark and cloudy indicator - simple and effective. I'll have to inspect my fluid.

I know about the hygroscopic nature of the fluid and the ability to corrode when saturated, but the sad thing is that often it is recommended to chaange fluids out long before it is actually needed (think engine oil!) - hence my sceptisism.

The brake system is sealed, so the ability to get water into a sealed system on a car that does not go out in the rain is low. If we're talking about Phil's car which doesn't leave the garage, then it's virtually nil.

I'm a big fan of preventative maintenance, but not a big fan of changing things that might not need to be changed.
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Originally Posted by Wellardmac
Thanks for the links Tim. The second one is particularly useful. I was hoping for an indicator of when the fluid needed changing and I liked the dark and cloudy indicator - simple and effective. I'll have to inspect my fluid.

I know about the hygroscopic nature of the fluid and the ability to corrode when saturated, but the sad thing is that often it is recommended to chaange fluids out long before it is actually needed (think engine oil!) - hence my sceptisism.

The brake system is sealed, so the ability to get water into a sealed system on a car that does not go out in the rain is low. If we're talking about Phil's car which doesn't leave the garage, then it's virtually nil.

I'm a big fan of preventative maintenance, but not a big fan of changing things that might not need to be changed.
Actually, the possability of anything getting into Phil's car is nil, because it is hermetically sealed!
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Originally Posted by redridge
drop your dealer! They sound money hungry!
I agree with you that they are money hungry, but it's the only P car dealer in Charlotte.

Tim (or anybody else in Charlotte), what are your overall thoughts re Hendrick Porsche? I feel they always seem to be pushing extra 'service'
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By the way, told them 'no way' on the airbag test. Did the brake flush... mine was done 2 years ago.


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