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Old 07-14-2007, 04:04 PM
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Very interesting issue between the two units. I am so used to the monitoring and measuring the V1 that I decided to hardwire the V1 and run it along side the K40 front/rear w/laser diffuser.

Yesterday, i intentionally gassed it a bit past a trooper on the Tollway to see answer my own questions. I truly now think the K40 Laser Diffuser does work and returns an incomplete reading to the radar gun. This is the second time I have had a distinctive issue with speed and not gotten stopped. Last week, late in the evening, I was toying with a new M6 out in the middle of nowhere. And although he could barely catch my supercharged C2, I was the first to top the crest of a hill and see the trooper. The K40 and V1 both slammed the dash with lights and warnings. The audible response of the K40 jamming the signal went off and to my surprise the trooper never even moved on me with. I had a 50 yard lead on the M6 and the very second the M topped the hill, the trooper light up and came out to play. I slowed first and moved towards the shoulder knowing that I was is a mild crap-load of trouble and to my elation he shot right past me and picked up on the M for the ticket.

The catch...twenty minutes later the trooper pulled into the gas station I was at , got out of the car and knelt down to look under the front bumper. He was very pleasant but firm and proceeded to explain to meet that he knew he had a returned radar signal the was inaccurate and that he had no choice but to ticket the M6. He also explained to me the difference of illegal radar band signals and laser signals. I did not know that the laser diffusing product was governed by the FDA whereas the x, k, ka radar jamming was a huge felony as it is governed by the FCC and big trouble to be caught with such a thing.

I am sure a great majority of you guys may already be aware of this and the differences but it was new and very interesting to me so I thought I would share it with anyone who has yet to experience it. As for the units, the K40 seems to absolutely work in the diffuser technology but does sound off quite a bit more than the V1. For the time being, I can not decide which is more accurate or whether I am just used to understanding how to read and interpret the V1. Time will tell and I will run with the both for a while.

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Old 07-14-2007, 04:19 PM
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Very interesting information and thanks for sharing. I do not have any radar detector as such, never thought I would need one, but maybe I should look into getting one now that I have a Porsche and 'will' drive faster than the posted speed limit. As of yet I have not done any research but I have heard about the V1 a lot on threads. Just that when I search for V1 on the net it comes back with so much, any idea where I can look to get more information (i.e. a link).

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Best place is always from the source:

http://www.valentine1.com/
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Originally Posted by LowStro9
Best place is always from the source:

http://www.valentine1.com/
Thanks
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FDC? Did you mean FDA? FDA regulates medical lasers, not sure about laser diffusers.
Old 07-14-2007, 05:07 PM
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Yes, Did mean FDA...my bad, and fixed.
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For my setup, I have a V1 paired with the Escort ZR3 Shifter. I've had a couple of opportunities to "test" the shifter, and it seems to work. Last week, I came up on a trooper with laser while safely driving over the speed limit, and I got hit once, then there was a brief pause then he hit me again. The first time I was definitely over the limit and he didn't move.
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I won both and it is important to point out that the K40 jams laser not radar. The laser gun cannot be employed from a moving vehicle and needs to be much closer to the line of target direction. I saw a very intersting demo a while back when my car was parked a few feet from a white reflective garage door. A technician triggered my laser receiver once and after that he walked away but the receiver continued to indicate it's own responsive transitting pulses. The result was a perpetual cycle=pretty cool. I wish I had it last fall when my V1 was a very precise laser ticket detector!
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Nice story. Quite frankly I think you've answered your own question as to which system you feel more secure with. I have the K40 and to date it has saved me several times. Wouldn't drive without it. Again great write up. Your heart must have sank when you saw the trooper pull into the gas station.

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Old 07-17-2007, 03:02 AM
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Yea, I got a bit excited when I saw him but as soon as he got out of the car, I could tell by his approach posture that I was going to get chewed out and then we were going to chat about the car.
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Just started looking into this based on this thread. Is the Defuser only sold as a front license plate frame?
http://www.k40.com/othe_defu.html

Is it the same for the rear?

I have a euro plate in the front, as front plates are not required in GA.
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Originally Posted by Jack667
Just started looking into this based on this thread. Is the Defuser only sold as a front license plate frame?
http://www.k40.com/othe_defu.html

Is it the same for the rear?

I have a euro plate in the front, as front plates are not required in GA.
i have had the laser diffuser installed on two of my cars and it was mounted underneath the license plate just under the lip of the front bumper.
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just a side note to the discussion regarding the k-40 laser diffuser. the company is very consumer friendly and they will pay with no hassels any speeding ticket that you get as long as the police clocked you with a laser gun. i got a ticket in CT going 92 in a 65, which cost me about $300, and k-40 reimbursed me a few weeks later. All i had to do was fax them a copy of the speeding ticket and the bank check. this leads me to the point that no system is invincible to police detection devices. the laser jammer obviously did not work in this situation and with instant on radar detection guns it is usually too late to slow down by the time the driver is notified by the system.
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Great, so they paid for your ticket. Will they also pony up for your inreased insurance bill? Guys, all these detectors are a load against the uncertainty that is instant on. The only sure fire way to avoid a ticket is not to speed. Slightly less effective is to trail speeders about a quarter to half mile back and watch for brake lights. In my neck of the woods, I know where all the speed traps are, but on long drives to unfamiliar destinations, I set the cruise at 70.
Yes, the government has taken all the fun out of driving. If we're lucky, maybe they'll just drive FOR us one day; hrmph, maybe even they'll live for us too. (Rant over).
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As I'll be upgrading to a laser jamming system, I'm finding this thread interesting. Looking at the K-40 site, there is no rear protection with the K-40. Yes, they guarantee to pay the tickets, but being lasered in the rear is something I would rather avoid, than be reimbursed for the ticket. They don't refund points on the license.

Looking at the Beltronics RX-75 Pro, although it's pricey, it seems to be a more complete system for front and rear protection.

Anybody have any experience with the Beltronics system?


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