C2 Brakes, Pads question
07-03-2007 | 02:54 PM
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C2 Brakes, Pads question
My car has the stock rotors, but I'm not sure about the pads. At 18k miles, the rotors are fine, but I find it takes more effort to stop the car then I think is normal. Feels like I am using track pads that are very hard when they are not warmed up, know what I mean? The pads are fine wear-wise. The brakes on my '02 Accord feel much better - which has to mean I have a problem, right?
The pads may not have been bedded properly when they were changed by the PO. Would it make sense to buy new stock pads, and see if that improves things?
The brakes do work fine, it's just I figure on a 911, I should be VERY impressed with braking performance, and I'm not.
The pads may not have been bedded properly when they were changed by the PO. Would it make sense to buy new stock pads, and see if that improves things?
The brakes do work fine, it's just I figure on a 911, I should be VERY impressed with braking performance, and I'm not.
07-03-2007 | 03:37 PM
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Some thoughts:
Have you checked your brake fluid level and when was it the last time changed?
What means "... it takes more effort to stop the car then I think is normal ..."? It might take more "effort". The supremacy of your brakes should not be that they need less effort but give the car a better braking rate. Have you tested them really hard?
How many miles do you have on the new pads? They need a certain break in time.
I run track pads (Pagid Orange) and I'm sure you'd hear the difference. Whenever I just grind my brakes on the street, they squeal, so I doubt that you run track pads.
Cheers, Harold
Have you checked your brake fluid level and when was it the last time changed?
What means "... it takes more effort to stop the car then I think is normal ..."? It might take more "effort". The supremacy of your brakes should not be that they need less effort but give the car a better braking rate. Have you tested them really hard?
How many miles do you have on the new pads? They need a certain break in time.
I run track pads (Pagid Orange) and I'm sure you'd hear the difference. Whenever I just grind my brakes on the street, they squeal, so I doubt that you run track pads.
Cheers, Harold
07-03-2007 | 04:40 PM
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a few things are possible. first, i always get the feeling that our G35 out brakes the porsche. i've measured the braking distances; it doesn't. the front engined cars REALLY dive under braking, giving the sensation of rapid deceleration. 911's, boxters, etc. with mid or rear engined layouts don't dive so much; braking feels less dramatic. measure braking distances; your porsche is better.
next, it's possible your pads are glazed (or just not good). there are several brands of pad that lack high bite / initial torque. others are more 'grabby'. it depends on what you like. i prefer hawk HPS because they have a high torque initial bite like a race pad, but they work on the street.
finally, if you have ever overheated your brake seals, they will soften and fail to retract your pads away from the disks after braking. this causes brake drag which will more or less perpetually overheat street pads. the solution to this is to change out the seals.
so, first check your braking distance against the accord. if the p-car loses, get new pads and replace your fluid. if that fails, have your vacuum booster checked. if it's okay, replace your front caliper seals.
next, it's possible your pads are glazed (or just not good). there are several brands of pad that lack high bite / initial torque. others are more 'grabby'. it depends on what you like. i prefer hawk HPS because they have a high torque initial bite like a race pad, but they work on the street.
finally, if you have ever overheated your brake seals, they will soften and fail to retract your pads away from the disks after braking. this causes brake drag which will more or less perpetually overheat street pads. the solution to this is to change out the seals.
so, first check your braking distance against the accord. if the p-car loses, get new pads and replace your fluid. if that fails, have your vacuum booster checked. if it's okay, replace your front caliper seals.
07-03-2007 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by insite
a few things are possible. first, i always get the feeling that our G35 out brakes the porsche. i've measured the braking distances; it doesn't. the front engined cars REALLY dive under braking, giving the sensation of rapid deceleration. 911's, boxters, etc. with mid or rear engined layouts don't dive so much; braking feels less dramatic. measure braking distances; your porsche is better.
next, it's possible your pads are glazed (or just not good). there are several brands of pad that lack high bite / initial torque. others are more 'grabby'. it depends on what you like. i prefer hawk HPS because they have a high torque initial bite like a race pad, but they work on the street.
finally, if you have ever overheated your brake seals, they will soften and fail to retract your pads away from the disks after braking. this causes brake drag which will more or less perpetually overheat street pads. the solution to this is to change out the seals.
so, first check your braking distance against the accord. if the p-car loses, get new pads and replace your fluid. if that fails, have your vacuum booster checked. if it's okay, replace your front caliper seals.
next, it's possible your pads are glazed (or just not good). there are several brands of pad that lack high bite / initial torque. others are more 'grabby'. it depends on what you like. i prefer hawk HPS because they have a high torque initial bite like a race pad, but they work on the street.
finally, if you have ever overheated your brake seals, they will soften and fail to retract your pads away from the disks after braking. this causes brake drag which will more or less perpetually overheat street pads. the solution to this is to change out the seals.
so, first check your braking distance against the accord. if the p-car loses, get new pads and replace your fluid. if that fails, have your vacuum booster checked. if it's okay, replace your front caliper seals.
