Transmission / Second gear
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Transmission / Second gear
To the trusted Porsche brain trust ;-)): I have a 2001 996 Cabriolet with about 22,000 miles. Since I bought the car used last year (with 9,000 miles), every once in a while the gear shift pops out of second gear, but of course, the dealer can't replicate the problem. He says until he can, he can't fix it under warranty (I have an aftermarket warranty from the dealer). Can anyone offer any insight into what this problem might be? It only happens in second gear and occurs if I don't *really* throw it down tight into second.
Thanks!
Thanks!
#2
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Pulling your foot up off the clutch before you're fully in gear?
I've had that happen if the lever isn't all the way in gear and I'm fast off the clutch... If it happens it's usually first thing in the morning when I'm half asleep and haven't driven the car in a few days.
I've had that happen if the lever isn't all the way in gear and I'm fast off the clutch... If it happens it's usually first thing in the morning when I'm half asleep and haven't driven the car in a few days.
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Do a search under 2nd gear pop in the 996 Turbo forum. I think this is a common problem for their cars.
I have not hear of it happening on ours until you.
I have not hear of it happening on ours until you.
#4
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It is a problem with the syncros. A few dollars in parts, but lots of labor. I would recommend you talk to PowerHaus II, they have an rebuild/upgrade kit.
http://www.powerhaus2.com/
http://www.powerhaus2.com/
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Originally Posted by Ray S
Do a search under 2nd gear pop in the 996 Turbo forum. I think this is a common problem for their cars.
I have not hear of it happening on ours until you.
I have not hear of it happening on ours until you.
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It is happening to me, and I was told by my mechanic that it is not uncommon. And he indicated that it is a failure of the entire tranny, but you see it in second gear first because that is the gear you use most. Since I have a warranty, he recommended driving it until it was reliably reproducible. The official 'fix' for it is to replace the tranny, because Porsche doesn't do tranny rebuilds. My mechanic said that it can be fixed, but the labor cost is so high that it usually makes more sense to replace it. The tranny is around $7200 is my understanding. All of the info I'm presenting here is from an independent (Porsche certified and locally well respected) mechanic, and I've never even seen the inside of a transmission (ie, if I'm wrong, don't shoot me).
Since I'm covered under a warranty, I'm just waiting for it to get bad enough to happen for the service tech at the dealer. It's happened 16 times now in 3 months. Annoyingly, 4 of those have been during autocross runs. It's still not happening enough to have a shot at reproducing it at the dealer, tho. =(
Since I'm covered under a warranty, I'm just waiting for it to get bad enough to happen for the service tech at the dealer. It's happened 16 times now in 3 months. Annoyingly, 4 of those have been during autocross runs. It's still not happening enough to have a shot at reproducing it at the dealer, tho. =(
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Originally Posted by Irksome
It is happening to me, and I was told by my mechanic that it is not uncommon. And he indicated that it is a failure of the entire tranny, but you see it in second gear first because that is the gear you use most. Since I have a warranty, he recommended driving it until it was reliably reproducible. The official 'fix' for it is to replace the tranny, because Porsche doesn't do tranny rebuilds. My mechanic said that it can be fixed, but the labor cost is so high that it usually makes more sense to replace it. The tranny is around $7200 is my understanding. All of the info I'm presenting here is from an independent (Porsche certified and locally well respected) mechanic, and I've never even seen the inside of a transmission (ie, if I'm wrong, don't shoot me).
Since I'm covered under a warranty, I'm just waiting for it to get bad enough to happen for the service tech at the dealer. It's happened 16 times now in 3 months. Annoyingly, 4 of those have been during autocross runs. It's still not happening enough to have a shot at reproducing it at the dealer, tho. =(
Since I'm covered under a warranty, I'm just waiting for it to get bad enough to happen for the service tech at the dealer. It's happened 16 times now in 3 months. Annoyingly, 4 of those have been during autocross runs. It's still not happening enough to have a shot at reproducing it at the dealer, tho. =(
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its not a failure of the whole trans, just that gear set
tt trannies are diffrent, but 3500 for a rebuild is a bargin
Regualr transmission are now rebuildable porsche supplied tools to all the dealers and parts are now available from porsche
tt trannies are diffrent, but 3500 for a rebuild is a bargin
Regualr transmission are now rebuildable porsche supplied tools to all the dealers and parts are now available from porsche
#11
Could be the 1-2 shift fork is getting worn, so it does not get into gear properly. It also be simple as the shift linkage not properly set.
With worn syncros, 'grinding' gears would be heard and felt.
I should flush my tranny soon to see how much shiny flakes comes out.
With worn syncros, 'grinding' gears would be heard and felt.
I should flush my tranny soon to see how much shiny flakes comes out.
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Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by Irksome
..... Annoyingly, 4 of those have been during autocross runs. =(
Those same friends I mentioned were denied a warranty repair because they autocrossed the car. That was a few years ago, and here in Vancouver, Canada the dealership is known for being a dink, but still - you might not want to advertise your AX activities.
On another note, this afforementioned dealership verified that my friends were autocrossing their car by going on line to our culb website where their run tmes had been posted.
yep - that's customer service!