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Old 05-07-2007, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jimhsu
So don't be so quick to dismiss Turbo preference as bling-bling worshipping....
Just like not being so quick to dismiss the AWD preference as a non-performer preference.
Old 05-07-2007, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
My whole point is the sports cars are made for different reasons. While the U.S doesn't give a **** about rally racing, the rest of the world does. I guess were just a bit more intelligent and get board of going round an oval.

If you hope to demonstrate your superior intelligence, you should learn to use the correct words unless you are saying you get hit with a piece of plywood when you drive around an oval?
Old 05-07-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jimhsu
I am not buying one new though, and when I buy it it will be the Turbo. Why? Because I've driven both the C2, the C4S, and the Turbo....for the money difference in the used market, Turbos are a bargain for what they offer (GT1 engine block, big red brakes, stronger gearbox, and the acceleration!!!)

So don't be so quick to dismiss Turbo preference as bling-bling worshipping....
Hey, the C4S has big red brakes too.
Old 05-07-2007, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
If you hope to demonstrate your superior intelligence, you should learn to use the correct words unless you are saying you are a piece of plywood?
nit pic if you want, intelligence is not based on a misspelled word.
Old 05-07-2007, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
nit pic if you want, intelligence is not based on a misspelled word.

It is a factor when the writer is attempting to show their superiority over the reader.


BTW: it is NITPICK.
Old 05-07-2007, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
It is a factor when the writer is attempting to show their superiority over the reader.


BTW: it is NITPICK.
over the reader. my intention was to the idiot I responded too and it was not intended to show superiority but to help out a tunnel-visioned person to hopefully see the light thats around him.
Old 05-07-2007, 10:35 PM
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Ouch. it's intention, not intension. We need to git the spill cheker workin
Old 05-07-2007, 10:35 PM
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Walter Röhrl prefers to be in a c4 instead of the c2...an article I read.

WE all know he is THE Porsche test driver... In other words GOD

Im sure someone will come back with.... "because of his Rally history."

BTW: Jumper5836... leave the US out of this... were not all unintelligent.
Old 05-07-2007, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dresler
Ouch. it's intention, not intension. We need to git the spill cheker workin
your right I should. maybe we should get the spell checker working. couldn't hurt us both.
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Originally Posted by ArneeA
Just like not being so quick to dismiss the AWD preference as a non-performer preference.
I am not sure where you'd get that....I am planning on buying AWD!!

Plus I just mentioned that clearly in the 1980s Porsche thought AWD as the frontier in performance driving on or off the road, when it brought 959 AWD to Paris/Dakar and entered the 959/961 AWD to Le Mans.

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Old 05-07-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by redridge
Walter Röhrl prefers to be in a c4 instead of the c2...an article I read.

WE all know he is THE Porsche test driver... In other words GOD

Im sure someone will come back with.... "because of his Rally history."

BTW: Jumper5836... leave the US out of this... were not all unintelligent.
Anyone ever hear of pikes peak.

I hear yah. just wondering why nascar get broadcasted in HD but try and find any other race that isn't nascar and it won't be.
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Originally Posted by dresler
Hey, the C4S has big red brakes too.
C4S has the Turbo red brakes, but not the GT1 engine block, nor the stronger gearbox, nor the sweet acceleration....
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Originally Posted by ag-Z06
First of all, I'll correct your statement above - please visit this link:
Ferrari AWD

And I'd love to hear your rationale on why Lamborghini Gallardo and Murcielago are both AWD. 996 and 997 Turbo? Audi S4/RS4/RS6? Subaru WRX? Mitsu EVO? All pretty darn fast DRIVERS cars...

First of all, let me defend my statement by providing the text from the very link that you provided me: "The “insertable” AWD system allows you to have the best of both worlds - RWD on the track, and AWD when traction levels are low. Add to that, they probably are worried that with 800hp vehicles on the way, most Ferrari owners will need extra help to keep their vehicles under control.

And that quote exactly is the reason for AWD on all those cars you named. The closer to RWD that you can make the car feel, the better. This is one of the highest praises reviewers give to the EVO, in fact - that it handles almost like a RWD car! The WRX (which I used to own) understeered, as does the STi, and both the Turbo versions of the Porsche also understeer more than their 2wd counterparts.

All that said - the fact is that awd is easier to drive and less likely to swap ends, especially with all the electronic aids working. An average driver can drive close to or even pass the limits with less reprocusions and so they are safer to the typical driver.
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
Anyone ever hear of pikes peak.

I hear yah. just wondering why nascar get broadcasted in HD but try and find any other race that isn't nascar and it won't be.
Maybe you should just watch it on one of your Canadian HD broadcasts.

It's not our fault that stockcar racing took off like it did, no need to bash an entire country.
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Originally Posted by jimhsu
C4S has the Turbo red brakes, but not the GT1 engine block, nor the stronger gearbox, nor the sweet acceleration....
it's also got the steeper depreciation curve, the gearbox that pops out of 2nd gear, turbo lag, and busier looks

haha just giving u a hard time jimbo


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