Nine9Sixer

well, you highlight the distinguishing fact yourself in your own story. you got hit while accelerlating within the legal speed limit. how often does one get lasered (1) while accelerating and (2) under ths speed limit? most laser is on the highway where you're already crusing at above the speed limit. from my personal experience, it's generally only state cops who use laser so, yes, under your scenario, which might account for 2% of all times one can get hit with laser, a laser detector actually works. i'm not pissing away my laser detector, i have a VI where's it's included. it works better on smaller roads and some state highways where cops still use radar. all this being said, you should think a bit before throwing out words like "bogus" and "bs."

cdodkin

Go ahead, convince yourself that you won't need Laser detection.

It saved me $150 and traffic school out of state - great investment.

Of course, I mounted my detector correctly to give myself a chance.

But hey, it's your life.

GBG

Where is the best location to mount the damn thing? Thx

Riad

I have the Passport SRX with the both front and rear laser detection/diffusion, and I have to agree that although I don't care it's there, it will generally not save you from a ticket if you should be speeding... you're kind of toast once it goes off.

cdodkin

Check out:

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/...detector/2.asp

or listen to what Mike Valentine has to say:

Nine9Sixer

oh, you mean mike valentine, the guy who's trying to sell you the radar? the only value in having a laser detector (other than, as you deftly pointed out, while accelerating under the speed limit with the intention of surpassing it and the cop intending to hit you several times while accelerating) is knowing which cops use laser and which use radar. knock on wood, my VI has never detected laser with cops around. if i see plenty of cops and my V1 does not detect laser or radar, but i know they're pulling people over, i can reasonably deduce they are using laser. i can further deduce that my V1 will be of little help while i speed through that area, and therefore i should be much more careful and/or not speed so much. that's the value for me. no detector is 100% and should only be used to facilitate your awareness of the road and where speed traps may be.

cdodkin

You are of course discounting the chance of picking up LASER scatter from the cops hitting vehicles in front of you on the road, giving you time to slow down.

Now if your V1 doesn't trigger - this may be because

1) It is mounted too high to 'see' the LASER

2) Is mounted to look through the tint at the top of your windshield, thus drastically reducing sensitivity to LASER

3) Just doesn't work as a LASER detector for some reason

If you want to ignore Mike, and assume it's all sales BS - why even buy his detector at all?

How about listening to an ex-speed cop - here's why you should always give yourself a fighting chance

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/...r/mistakes.asp

And although you for some reason want to discount my experience with LASER detection.

It saved me a ticket, a fine, and traffic school.

What else could I want from running a LASER detector?

Nine9Sixer

man o' man, i would've thought the socal sun would've cheered up your no-nonsense brit sensibility just a little bit (sorry, bad joke). i understand there's no such thing as laser scatter unless perhaps the cop is shooting his laser gun all over the place, but i'm admittedly no expert. in the end, all i'm suggesting is that it's a false security believing that a laser detector will protect you in 98% of the circumstances where one is likely to encounter laser-- cruising at 90mph and cresting a hill or coming around a turn and seeing the cop on the shoulder with the gun pointing right at you with your E-like symbol and "J" flasihing like crazy.

cdodkin

If it saves me from one ticket - it's worth having IMHO.

If you mount it in a sub-optimal location, you increase your chances of missing the trigger, and increase your chances of getting that ticket.

As for scatter - If the officer is not steady while targeting vehicles, scatter laser signals can result, giving a possible signal to detect.

They are only human - it's not a 'done deal' as you seem to want to portray.

I never said having working LASER detection would provide 98% protection.

I'm simply saying, that after spending the $$$ on a detector, just take the time to read-up on where to mount it to make the best use of your investment, and give yourself the best chance of avoiding a ticket.

It's common sense.

If you just don't like how it looks mounted low on the windshield, then say it.

Don't try to justify mounting high with pointless scenarios.

Nine9Sixer

geez, did i miss the facist idealogue meeting today? just adding a little context to the conversation. not pretext. i don't disagree with you on the above. i did read my valentine manual and did indy research on the subject, and after i made what i thought was an informed decision, wasn't so concerned with the benefits of laser protection. i believe some call this an opinion. you added what appears to be yours. and, hey look, it's a discussion board! what a novel concept.

mc_renn

I like to mount it high because it looks pretty...sometimes I don't even turn it on and just stare at it.

cdodkin

I noticed you did try to bring my race into the discussion earlier - does that count?

Nine9Sixer

heh? perhaps nationality, but not race. unless you mean the anglo-saxon, imperialistic, god-save-the queen, princess diana-who?, perhaps-Thatcher-was-right, race, then, sure, i guess so.

Nine9Sixer

hehe. ah, someone sensible to put this discussion into perspective.

cdodkin