Valentine 1 - Why are the 'Arrows' any good?
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I drive around on "advanced logic" mode on the V1, so it only makes sound when it's actually something to probably worry about.
I drove across the country twice at 95mph with the V1, only slowing down when the arrows told me I should worry about it. If it's to the side or in back, I don't slow down. It saved me 6-8 times in those two trips, and was WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!!
I used to have a nice Beltronics that just went beep and I had to slow down every time it went beep and I had no idea where or how many there are around me. I got the V1 because I don't want to have to slow down every time it goes beep- simple as that.
With the V1 I can pass thru a speed trap, and it'll tell me that there is still another cop up the road, in addition to the one I just passed behind me.. it'll clearly indicate this to me with the "bogie counter" and the arrows. All the Bel does is go beep. You would think it was beeping because of the cop you just passed, then get nailed by the one just up the road, and you would have no way of knowing.
I drove across the country twice at 95mph with the V1, only slowing down when the arrows told me I should worry about it. If it's to the side or in back, I don't slow down. It saved me 6-8 times in those two trips, and was WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!!
I used to have a nice Beltronics that just went beep and I had to slow down every time it went beep and I had no idea where or how many there are around me. I got the V1 because I don't want to have to slow down every time it goes beep- simple as that.
With the V1 I can pass thru a speed trap, and it'll tell me that there is still another cop up the road, in addition to the one I just passed behind me.. it'll clearly indicate this to me with the "bogie counter" and the arrows. All the Bel does is go beep. You would think it was beeping because of the cop you just passed, then get nailed by the one just up the road, and you would have no way of knowing.
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FYI Bell and Passport have boogie counters they just don't have arrows.
Originally Posted by ElTorrente
I drive around on "advanced logic" mode on the V1, so it only makes sound when it's actually something to probably worry about.
I drove across the country twice at 95mph with the V1, only slowing down when the arrows told me I should worry about it. If it's to the side or in back, I don't slow down. It saved me 6-8 times in those two trips, and was WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!!
I used to have a nice Beltronics that just went beep and I had to slow down every time it went beep and I had no idea where or how many there are around me. I got the V1 because I don't want to have to slow down every time it goes beep- simple as that.
With the V1 I can pass thru a speed trap, and it'll tell me that there is still another cop up the road, in addition to the one I just passed behind me.. it'll clearly indicate this to me with the "bogie counter" and the arrows. All the Bel does is go beep. You would think it was beeping because of the cop you just passed, then get nailed by the one just up the road, and you would have no way of knowing.
I drove across the country twice at 95mph with the V1, only slowing down when the arrows told me I should worry about it. If it's to the side or in back, I don't slow down. It saved me 6-8 times in those two trips, and was WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!!
I used to have a nice Beltronics that just went beep and I had to slow down every time it went beep and I had no idea where or how many there are around me. I got the V1 because I don't want to have to slow down every time it goes beep- simple as that.
With the V1 I can pass thru a speed trap, and it'll tell me that there is still another cop up the road, in addition to the one I just passed behind me.. it'll clearly indicate this to me with the "bogie counter" and the arrows. All the Bel does is go beep. You would think it was beeping because of the cop you just passed, then get nailed by the one just up the road, and you would have no way of knowing.
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One reason that was implied but not specifically stated is when there is more than one police car! I've had the V1 going off, passed a cop but the arrows were still pointing forward. There was another cop just over the hill. Without the arrows, you would assume that the cop you saw was the one you were picking up with the detector...
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People that don't use the V1 all say, "well if your detector goes off, you are going to hit the brakes anyway.. so what is the point of the arrows?". You see, this is exactly the point. I bought the V1 because I don't WANT to hit the brakes everytime I get an alert! Heck, 3 out of 4 times it's something I don't have to worry about because it's to the side or behind me.
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My Passport shows the strength of each radar signal represented as a bar graph. So when multiple bands and or signals begin to warn I can see the bar increase. If there are two signals the 2nd bar increases as I get closer to the 2nd source and the 1rst bar will decrease as I pass the 1rst source. So in essence I know there is a 2nd car ahead.
Originally Posted by John Welch
One reason that was implied but not specifically stated is when there is more than one police car! I've had the V1 going off, passed a cop but the arrows were still pointing forward. There was another cop just over the hill. Without the arrows, you would assume that the cop you saw was the one you were picking up with the detector...
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Not true, I've used the V1 pleanty of times. When my dectors go off I slow down, I don't hit the brakes. When I'm local I know how many signals are in my local routes so if I see an extra bar indicating an extra source, I slow down. The only place I look when the detector beeps is in the rear view since I'm already vigilantly looking ahead. If I used arrows I would only look at the arrows after looking in the rearview first, assuming I don't see anything behind me. This is what is done with my K40 which has front and rear radar indicators.
If I'm out of town on the HWY I don't get falses with the Passport but pleanty with the old K40 installed in the 996. So when it(Passport) beeps on the HWY I know it's the real deal. 9 times out of 10 police won't be coming from behind me on the HWY because I'm driving at the same speed they typically are. They will only be catching up to people going slower than them.
If I'm out of town on the HWY I don't get falses with the Passport but pleanty with the old K40 installed in the 996. So when it(Passport) beeps on the HWY I know it's the real deal. 9 times out of 10 police won't be coming from behind me on the HWY because I'm driving at the same speed they typically are. They will only be catching up to people going slower than them.
Originally Posted by ElTorrente
People that don't use the V1 all say, "well if your detector goes off, you are going to hit the brakes anyway.. so what is the point of the arrows?". You see, this is exactly the point. I bought the V1 because I don't WANT to hit the brakes everytime I get an alert! Heck, 3 out of 4 times it's something I don't have to worry about because it's to the side or behind me.
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If there are two signals...
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Same difference. If I approach the Police vehicle and my strength indicator doesn't increase it is clear there is something else out there, especially if I pass the patrolman and the strength indicator doesn't decrease.
Originally Posted by John Welch
You are correct, if both cars have a radar unit operating. However, in my example, there was only one radar unit, which was indicated by the bogey counter. The assumption at that point would be that the cop I see is the one with the radar, but in my example, the actual car with radar was still ahead.
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Did anyone else notice the little blurb in the latest Autoweek.
Escort is introducing a new radar detector, the 9500, which is supposed to come with some totally new technology, including GPS. I'm not sure how they're going to utilize that, but it got me to thinking. Imagine what it would be like if you knew what everyone ELSES radar/laser detectors were doing--the ones several miles ahead or behind. The information could show up as hot spots on your NAV screen, for instance. That would be truly awesome.
Anyway, Escort is apparently unveiling the 9500 at this week's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
Escort is introducing a new radar detector, the 9500, which is supposed to come with some totally new technology, including GPS. I'm not sure how they're going to utilize that, but it got me to thinking. Imagine what it would be like if you knew what everyone ELSES radar/laser detectors were doing--the ones several miles ahead or behind. The information could show up as hot spots on your NAV screen, for instance. That would be truly awesome.
Anyway, Escort is apparently unveiling the 9500 at this week's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
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Originally Posted by washington dc porsche
Same difference. If I approach the Police vehicle and my strength indicator doesn't increase it is clear there is something else out there, especially if I pass the patrolman and the strength indicator doesn't decrease.
That would work if the cop had his radar on the whole time. If, like most cops, he was using instant-on, you could pass the first cop, get an alert, and think it was stronger simply because you just passed him - so obviously it was him who just triggered the radar gun. Then 1/4 mile around the next turn, you find out you guessed wrong.
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To each his own, but I like knowing 1) how many cops are out there, and 2) where they are. The first time you get tagged fore and aft by two to three cop cars(that happens a lot here in South Florida, but may not occur where you are), you'll love the arrows.
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An instant on alert is an entirely different situation. You can have any radar detector and get popped with instant on, arrows or not. LOL! If I use the situation you've switched to this time, I will pick up a signal for a couple of seconds, if that long, then it will totally disapear so will it on your V1. If I've passed the 1rst police car and picked up the 1 second-2 beep I still know there is a police car around and I'd still be travelly at a reasonable speed. Not to mention I still can see signal strength, the officer must see me and be within 1/4 of a mile, and I still can use my eyes. I'm not trapped inside of a Air Trafic Control center using old plasma screens as my only tool. Instant on like laser is the luck of the draw with you hoping nethier is aimed at you.
Also, on the Interstate here on the East Coast most State police don't use instant on. NC uses it the most along with pacing.
Also, on the Interstate here on the East Coast most State police don't use instant on. NC uses it the most along with pacing.
Originally Posted by ElTorrente
That would work if the cop had his radar on the whole time. If, like most cops, he was using instant-on, you could pass the first cop, get an alert, and think it was stronger simply because you just passed him - so obviously it was him who just triggered the radar gun. Then 1/4 mile around the next turn, you find out you guessed wrong.
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I've noticed now that I have been using the new V1 POP2, that even in full logic model it goes off in X and K. It goes off near the same stores as before, just 100-200' soon. Also, I noticed the display togles when you first turn it on. I am guessing there is a different diagnostic mode it runs when it first turns on.
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You pick up instant on when it isn't aimed at your car. Most alerts I get are on and off, and I know someone is up there beaming people long before I get beamed myself. Like I said, if you pass a cop on the side of the road, then soon after get a quick alert that goes off, you won't know if it was from the guy behind you or if there is another one unless you have arrows.
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Escort is introducing a new radar detector, the 9500, which is supposed to come with some totally new technology, including GPS. I'm not sure how they're going to utilize that...
All police car locations are constantly tracked using GPS these days. With all the damn unmarked Magnums, Chargers, Impalas, SUVs etc. out there what I'm waiting for is a police data receiver that warns me whenever I'm within a mile of a cop. Now that would be priceless!