Thinking of selling my '04 C4S ....
12-11-2006, 06:13 PM
#32
Drifting
Originally Posted by LVDell
Gant, you understand that Rennlist is a drug-free environment? Whatever you are smoking, please stop as it is really clouding your judgement. 
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Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, bitch!
12-11-2006, 06:13 PM
#33
Burning Brakes
Phil:
I watched this thread grow and become hostile. It is apparent that your proposal to sell your car is too upsetting to the group at large. I regret to inform you that, for the good of the community, you will be required to retain your car.
I watched this thread grow and become hostile. It is apparent that your proposal to sell your car is too upsetting to the group at large. I regret to inform you that, for the good of the community, you will be required to retain your car.
12-11-2006, 06:17 PM
#34
Originally Posted by arr0gant
A 2004 GT3, in showroom shape, with 1700k miles WILL SELL for $95 to 100k! Balee-dat!
Pcar prices are a fallin. I'm begining to see the logic of leasing.
12-11-2006, 06:20 PM
#35
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by arr0gant
Ok, we are talking about a 3 year old, model year car, in showroom shape. It has UNDER 2k miles. He should list that thing for $80k and accept nothing less than $75k.
Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, bitch!
Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, bitch!
This approach will guarantee you that you will still have the car around to drive. Maybe it's the perfect resolution to your dilemma. You will still have a beautiful Porsche but will feel like you're trying to get rid of it. Both emotions will get your attention.
12-11-2006, 06:47 PM
#36
Drifting
dell, can u define "soul" ? 
Originally Posted by LVDell
Gant, you understand that Rennlist is a drug-free environment? Whatever you are smoking, please stop as it is really clouding your judgement.
As for the original poster. Park your car for 1 week. Go rent a $20-a-day rental and then come back to your car. OOOOOOHHHH, AAAHHHHHH. You will be in love all over again. Hell, I can't stop buying these damn things. Their soul stirs my emotions in ways I can't describe to non-Porsche owners which is why I take the philosophy of Steve.....let those drive your car that can't be as fortunate. And if you don't feel comfy with that, then at least take them for a spin
Regardless of what you decide, you should make sure that is a decision you will NOT regret (either to keep or sell).
We're here to offer as much support as you can take but it really comes down to what your gut tells you.
As for the original poster. Park your car for 1 week. Go rent a $20-a-day rental and then come back to your car. OOOOOOHHHH, AAAHHHHHH. You will be in love all over again. Hell, I can't stop buying these damn things. Their soul stirs my emotions in ways I can't describe to non-Porsche owners which is why I take the philosophy of Steve.....let those drive your car that can't be as fortunate. And if you don't feel comfy with that, then at least take them for a spin
Regardless of what you decide, you should make sure that is a decision you will NOT regret (either to keep or sell).
We're here to offer as much support as you can take but it really comes down to what your gut tells you.
12-11-2006, 10:10 PM
#39
Race Car
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by MJBird993
There are some of us who do think that the 996 is a nicer looking car than the 997. Heck, there are even some who think the 996 is nicer looking than a 993!!!!
Michael
12-12-2006, 01:53 AM
#42
Rennlist Member
arr0gant I dont know if you're being facetious or are actually just insane, but you are on la la land!
we all love our 996s, but honestly, there are not a lot of arguments for why a 996 is better than a 997 other than price. the 993 to 996 transition polarized owners because of the huge change of "style/character", but the 996 to 997 is merely an extension much as 964 --> 993 was.
for this reason, and others, the collectability of a 996 in my eyes is very limited, much as say the 964 was. not to say owners wont enjoy their cars, but the delta in value between a museum quality 993 and an "average" one is much greater than the same delta on a 964. similarly, i think this is the case with a 996.
to summarize, you're insane if you think this car is worth 80k. to get it sold, i think its gotta be in the mid to high 60s.
but keep your car!
we all love our 996s, but honestly, there are not a lot of arguments for why a 996 is better than a 997 other than price. the 993 to 996 transition polarized owners because of the huge change of "style/character", but the 996 to 997 is merely an extension much as 964 --> 993 was.
for this reason, and others, the collectability of a 996 in my eyes is very limited, much as say the 964 was. not to say owners wont enjoy their cars, but the delta in value between a museum quality 993 and an "average" one is much greater than the same delta on a 964. similarly, i think this is the case with a 996.
to summarize, you're insane if you think this car is worth 80k. to get it sold, i think its gotta be in the mid to high 60s.
but keep your car!
12-12-2006, 08:06 AM
#44
Phil, I went through the same process a couple of weks ago. You have something in your garage worth a lot of money and the approaching winter makes you contemplate the value of owning and experie ncing the car. You have probably thought "is this just a want that has now been satisfied?, does this car provide me with as much pleasure as I anticipated? Did it really change my life?. Another question I have asked myself after seeing someone close experience a tragedy is "Given what I have learned from a friend's loss, how relevant is that piece of leather and metal in my garage?
Steve: Let me congratulate you on a very well written and thoughtful post. Any time that anyone makes a significant purchase, and $90K is a significant purchase even for those of us that have a substantial income, it's important after a time to examine the reasons for our purchase, and to evaluate whether or not we are getting what we expected from our purchase. None of us can do this soul searching for others since we all have different values and different reasons for buying high end cars. So IMO it's important for Phil to do some soul searching and to make a judgement whether or not his 996 is providing him what he expected. If the answer is no, then it's best for Phil to cut his losses and sell the car. If the decision is to sell, I'd wait at least three months to advertise it because as others have stated this is not a good time to sell a Porsche in the NE.
Steve: Let me congratulate you on a very well written and thoughtful post. Any time that anyone makes a significant purchase, and $90K is a significant purchase even for those of us that have a substantial income, it's important after a time to examine the reasons for our purchase, and to evaluate whether or not we are getting what we expected from our purchase. None of us can do this soul searching for others since we all have different values and different reasons for buying high end cars. So IMO it's important for Phil to do some soul searching and to make a judgement whether or not his 996 is providing him what he expected. If the answer is no, then it's best for Phil to cut his losses and sell the car. If the decision is to sell, I'd wait at least three months to advertise it because as others have stated this is not a good time to sell a Porsche in the NE.
12-12-2006, 08:18 AM
#45
Race Car
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by fast1
Phil, I went through the same process a couple of weks ago. You have something in your garage worth a lot of money and the approaching winter makes you contemplate the value of owning and experie ncing the car. You have probably thought "is this just a want that has now been satisfied?, does this car provide me with as much pleasure as I anticipated? Did it really change my life?. Another question I have asked myself after seeing someone close experience a tragedy is "Given what I have learned from a friend's loss, how relevant is that piece of leather and metal in my garage?
Steve: Let me congratulate you on a very well written and thoughtful post. Any time that anyone makes a significant purchase, and $90K is a significant purchase even for those of us that have a substantial income, it's important after a time to examine the reasons for our purchase, and to evaluate whether or not we are getting what we expected from our purchase. None of us can do this soul searching for others since we all have different values and different reasons for buying high end cars. So IMO it's important for Phil to do some soul searching and to make a judgement whether or not his 996 is providing him what he expected. If the answer is no, then it's best for Phil to cut his losses and sell the car. If the decision is to sell, I'd wait at least three months to advertise it because as others have stated this is not a good time to sell a Porsche in the NE.
Steve: Let me congratulate you on a very well written and thoughtful post. Any time that anyone makes a significant purchase, and $90K is a significant purchase even for those of us that have a substantial income, it's important after a time to examine the reasons for our purchase, and to evaluate whether or not we are getting what we expected from our purchase. None of us can do this soul searching for others since we all have different values and different reasons for buying high end cars. So IMO it's important for Phil to do some soul searching and to make a judgement whether or not his 996 is providing him what he expected. If the answer is no, then it's best for Phil to cut his losses and sell the car. If the decision is to sell, I'd wait at least three months to advertise it because as others have stated this is not a good time to sell a Porsche in the NE.
Phil