Audi S8!!

10 cylinder Lamborgini motor, 450 hp, great handling, great looking!!!

I just drove it and have one word...........Wow!!

 

There's an idea! Ray S, could you please give me some details on your impressions of the S8?

 

Audi RS4, BMW M5.

 

No problem.

The interior is standard Audi.....awesome. Very tasteful, and the "MMI" is much more intuitive than the Mercedes "Command" or BMW "I-Drive" (I have driven them all). The Audi, drives much smaller than it's size. The ride is firm and controlled and the car corners very flat for a big sedan. However, the car still manages to have a very comfortable ride (not sure how Audi pulled this off with a car that rides w/ 265's on 20" wheels).

The motor is just one huge well or torque. It pulls strongly at any RPM and it's not afraid to rev. Then there is the sound......Glorious!! Not quite as good as the 996 flat six (w/PSE) at full wail, but pretty darn good for a big sedan and I was impressed that Audi didn't try to make it too quiet.

Finally, the tiptronic has paddles behind the steering wheel and it automatically rev matches on downshifts. It actually works much better and reacts more quickly than any Porsche tip I have ever driven.

As a total package the car is VERY impressive!!

 

Upscale GMC Envoy,you can steal them !

 

Oh I see, get the 750i.

 

If you have 4 kids, you need 3 rows. Escalade or Suburban is the way to go because you need reliable, easy to service transport for the family.

 

Your kids old enough to drive (or will be soon)?

 

No.

And Thanks Ray S.

Ok, the BMW M5 keeps popping up. I'm going to ask the question to you all. Given that's it's faster than the C4S, do you think this will steal the C4S's thunder and result in less appreciation for the 911, or am I just concerned about a nonissue ?

 

Unless you need to tow, I would go Audi. Nothing beats them for a balance of style, comfort, performance and security. I still have a heavily modded 95 S6 that I use as my daily.

Andrew

 

In my opinion the M5 is a big sedan (a fast big sedan, but still big). It will not steal sales from the Porsche C4S. However, there are several upcoming threats to the 911. Namely the new R8 and the rumored Dino.

The Panamera will provide the real competition for the M5.

 

I'm sorry. What I meant was this: I plan to keep my C4S for the weekends and whenever I feel like it, and get a daily driver which is the topic of discussion. So my question is this: if I were to drive a BMW M5 as a daily driver, will I enjoy my 911 less given that the M5 is faster?

 

I've driven the new M5 (once for an hour or so) - it is obviously not the same experience as a 996 - that said, it is a beast - I think the M5 would be a great car if you could only drive one car. If you like the straight line speed of your Porsche, yes I believe the M5 would dilute your driving experience in the C4S.

 

I drove one at a BMW autocross event against a G35 coupe. Very impressive car, and bigger than you think it is. Big room in the back seat. A little difficult to get out of the back seat, but kids won't have a problem with it.

Felt really quick. Turbo lag was there, but minimal.

Really solid turn in, good brakes, and good balance. Handling is a little tame by 911 standards, but it is a really good driver's car.

 

Unless you have an a small "size wise" family, I can't see them being happy in the back seat of a 5 series.