Even when the Nigerian police used manual detectors and stopped us speeding here, we'd always find a way to bribe our way out! The authorities eventually quit the practice many years ago..

Therefore, given my very limited knowledge about radar detectors, I would like to ask the universal question, being which is the best one to buy for use in Dubai? ..my next question being, do all radar dectectors work in all countries which probably have different systems to detect speeds?

Keeping in mind, that such detectors are not allowed for use in that country, are there ones that are removeable or 'hideable' somehow..

Replies highly appreciated, right Fadz?!! <img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" />

Waz

 

First, radars work on four frequency groups: X Band (old), K Band (such as the gatso), Ka Band (popular and can detect speeds from moving cop cars) and Ku Band (so far only used in England that I know of aka MiniGatso) but different countries use slightly different frequencies within those bands. So a radar detector made to detect US radars will not work for European freqs. There a some radar detectors that detect both. That I know of, Europe uses one set and US another. I don't know what set is used in Dubai, if you find out the frequencies I can tell you is they are US or Europe.

There is one detector that suposedly detects all the frequencies there is, and you just select the country you are in and it will detect those frequencies. Its the Bel 550 International. Its one of the ones that gets the best ratings here in Europe. The problem is that its mounted in the dash behind the windshiled so its visible to cops. So another option is the remote radar detectors wich consist in an antena that is installed behind the cars front bumper, (therefore invisible unless you take the bumper appar in a shop) and a very small control box with the leds and audible alarms that is hidden iside the cabin and its removable if you want to. There are versions for US such as the K40 and for Europe such as the Bel 966R Vector Europa (which is what I have installed - best radar detector for european freq's).

So best thing is to find out which freq's are used in Dubai. Maybe ask a traffic policeman or call a radar detector company and ask what freq's are used in Dubai.

Now, there is also Laser (Lidar) which is a whole another story <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> find out if they are using laser guns in Dubai also, they are just starting here in Spain. I gon nailed a few times with those in the US

Hope this helps Waz, anymore questions let me know

 

Fadz,

Your call, ball in your court

w

 

Best way to find out is to either:

Find out the freqs used:
9.41 GHz (X Band)
9.9 GHz (X Band)
10.525 GHz (X Band)
13.45 GHz (Ku Band)
24.125 GHz (K Band)
24.150 GHz (K Band)
33.8 GHz (Ka Band)
34.3 GHz (Ka Band)
34.7 GHz (Ka Band)
33.4-36.0 GHz (Ka Band)

Or the model of radar guns the police use, ex: Multanova 6F, Gantry Gatso, etc

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Carlos from Spain:
<strong>Best way to find out is to either:

Find out the freqs used:
9.41 GHz (X Band)
9.9 GHz (X Band)
10.525 GHz (X Band)
13.45 GHz (Ku Band)
24.125 GHz (K Band)
24.150 GHz (K Band)
33.8 GHz (Ka Band)
34.3 GHz (Ka Band)
34.7 GHz (Ka Band)
33.4-36.0 GHz (Ka Band)

Or the model of radar guns the police use, ex: Multanova 6F, Gantry Gatso, etc</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Carlos, you made it harder for me, but i asked a German friend using a radar detector here in Dubai and told me that he has no idea which frequency is used except that his radar detector is a European version something like Radatech, will this help???

Thanks Carlos

 

Hi Fadz,

Great! Radatech is a german radar detector company that makes exact copies of the two detectors I recomended to you

So if he actually has tested his detector againts the police radars in Dubai and worked then its European freqs they use.

I would recommend to go with the original product which should have the latest technology for greatest sensitivety. There has been some developments in its technology in the last years and companies that sell copies usually have the rights to the older models even though they look the same from the outside.

You have two options, if you can't buy them there you can order them to England thruogh the www like I did since they are ilegal here in Spain and so they are much more expensive to buy here:

WINDSHIELD MOUNT: Bel 550 International.
<a href="http://www.beldirect.co.uk/bel550.htm" target="_blank">Bel 550 International - UK web order & info</a>

goes in the dash behind the windshield but its visible to cops and also some cars windshields have some metal in them so will reduce sentitivety of the detector, I have had that problem with my 996 (I have one of these also which will go on my wife's BMW 3-series coupe which we are going to buy now).


REMOTE INTALL: Bel 966R Vector Europa.
<a href="http://www.beldirect.co.uk/bel966r.htm" target="_blank">Bel 966R - UK web order & info</a>

This is the hidden installation and the unit is not affected by celular phones, windshield, etc. This is what I have in my 996 (my porsche dealer intalled it for me), and its the best one you can have for european frequencies according to the reviews. The antenna is hidden behind the front bumper. This is what I recommend to you.

BTW no laser in Dubai?

One last thing, before you buy any detector, make sure the german guy has seem his detector work agaisnt the local radars to be sure, I have met many people here using US radar detectors that don't work but they didn't know it because they haven't encountered a radar yet.

Now, I hope you are not intending of breaking the traffic laws, are you?

 

He's started preps for the STI (or EVO-8) challenge next summer..

His a&& is mine!

Waz
996C299

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Waz996:
<strong>He's started preps for the STI (or EVO-8) challenge next summer..
His a&& is mine!
Waz
996C299</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Hi Carlos,

Thanks alot man, you really help alot, I will try the one you're using, hope it doesn't cost much hehehe! but please don't listen to this guy called waz he is so rude <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

 

Carlos, i forgot to ask you something

Since it is a hidden installation, is there a
chance the police can catch it while renewing the annual registration, i mean do they have sensors that shows there is a strange intrument in the car.

Another thing Carlos do you think my Porsche dealer here will install it for me???? I doubt and if i get it installed by some other Porsche specialist, would he be able to do it without damages of the computer???

Do you think the Police can change the frequencies from one time to another, in other words, sometimes you can detect them and others NO???

I guess they do have the laser in some of their cars, but not confirmed

Yes my German friend has a TT 993 with 450HP and he is happy detecting 99% of the radars with very good results.

Well the problem is that i am scared if i get it thru the net, Dubai customs might catch it, stop it, and then i will have to post topics on Rennlist from the jail.

I never thought of breaking the traffic laws until my last radar statement not one ticket.

tnx Carlos and sorry to ask many questions

 

I'm glad to help Fadz <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> and I'm a strongly against speed limits thats why I did my research on radar detector, there bis no way they are keeping me from enjoying my Porsche <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> .

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Fadz:
<strong>Since it is a hidden installation, is there a chance the police can catch it while renewing the annual registration, i mean do they have sensors that shows there is a strange intrument in the car.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">The only way they can detect it is either if they take your car to a shop and take the bumper apart, etc. Not likely since that costs $ and have no way of knowing before hand that there is one. The other way of detecting it is a little more difficult, radar detectors emit small amounts on radar waves themselves so there is radar-detector detectors (such as the VG2)that detect cars with detectors by detecting their radar emitions, but these nee radar detectors now have a tecnology which makes them invisible to theses detector detectors, called Shadow Technology, so you should be safe in this respect. Also its highly unlikely that the Dubai police will have detector-detectors since they are ussually used in areas with high pouplation of radar detectors in drivers such as some states of the US were detectors are ilegal.

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">
Another thing Carlos do you think my Porsche dealer here will install it for me???? I doubt and if i get it installed by some other Porsche specialist, would he be able to do it without damages of the computer???</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I'm sure the delaer can install it since its a simple installation and comes with installing instructions. Its not connected to the car's computer, only needs a connection to the car's battery. The only tricky part is pulling the front bumper to install the small antenna and that should be no problem for the dealer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> and from the antenna a cable needs to be run through the trunk to the cabin and thats it. If the dealer won't do it, them go to a shop who has unistalled 996 front bumpers such as a body shop or profesional car-stereo intallers, etc.

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">
Do you think the Police can change the frequencies from one time to another, in other words, sometimes you can detect them and others NO???</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">No, the radars can only work in the exact freq they were designed for and need to be calibrated everyday for which they should have a calibration form proving they calibrated it the day they are using it. The only way the can change the freq is to buy a different radar altogether. But since you also pick up the other availavble freqs, you are safe.

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">
I guess they do have the laser in some of their cars, but not confirmed</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Try to find out later for sure cause the radar will not avoid laser. If they have laser, you will also need a laser diffuser independant nof the radar detector. Some radar detectors also detect laser but thats of no use since laser beams are very narrow so you wont pick up any scatter to warn you before the target you so by the time your radar alerts you, the cop will already have nailed you.

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">
Yes my German friend has a TT 993 with 450HP and he is happy detecting 99% of the radars with very good results.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Good! but 99%? the radatech and the bel 966R do not pick up X band because its a very old freq barely used anymore and produces a lot of false signals, so new detectors don't include it or have a feature to turn it off. Maybe there is still an old X-band radar working there? I doubt it but if so and you still want X-band pritection then youn will have to go with the windshield mount bel550. There is one X-band in my city but I know were it is and always recognise inmediately the car its installed in, so its no problem really.

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">
Well the problem is that i am scared if i get it thru the net, Dubai customs might catch it, stop it, and then i will have to post topics on Rennlist from the jail.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Well, I ordered two of them for myself and my family and friends many more, and had no problems at all with customs. Then again UK is part of the ECU so there should be no customs to Spain. Maybe someone can order it outside Dubai and give it to you in person or send it by mail hidden? Waz?