GT3 conversion
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by FixedWing:
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I know that there are three questions you don't want to answer so I won't ask them (1. how much longer, 2. how much money and 3. how much time invested)?
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Thanks for the encouragement guys!
Aside from the 996C2, the wrecked GT3 cost me around $35k and this included the engine, tranny, ecu, wiring harness and all the other parts off the car. And then there was maybe another $20-30k or so in other parts including the seats, brakes, suspension, the actual GT3 rear wing. I should really sit down and do the accounting but that kind of takes the fun out of it. :^)
We're not too far away from finishing. Definitely before summer. We started actual dismantling of the transplant car around fall of last year. It hasn't been full time since you have to just keep working until you run into a problem. It's really tough to tell what all parts we needed until you actually get to working on that part. We had a problem with finding one of the transmission parts that broke during freighting and this held us up for about 2 months.
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What were the issues with fitting the engine? Did it not just drop right in??
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Yes and no. The issue is that it's the same motor that's used in the 996TT/GT2. Thus it uses the same mounts. If you get a chance try looking in the rear corners of a TT to compare what it looks like in a regular 996C2. It's really different. My mechanic theorizes that the GT3 is really a TT/GT2 tub with the narrow rear fenders. So the GT3 engine "fits" in the 996C2, but the mounts are different so things just don't line up quite right.
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The info on the sunroof is interesting. There has been a lot of conjecture on whether the weight difference is substantial. So now we know.
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Yes, it's actually quite heavy. Next time I'm back in LA, I'm going to try and weigh everything to see. The no-sunroof panel is only a few lbs and really feels like a feather compared to the sunroof panel and all the structural supports for the sunroof.
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We have recently been discussing 5-point vs 6-point harnesses on the Ringers list. You might be interested in reading this link:
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Thanks for the tip. We'll definitely look into it.
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I know that there are three questions you don't want to answer so I won't ask them (1. how much longer, 2. how much money and 3. how much time invested)?
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Thanks for the encouragement guys!
Aside from the 996C2, the wrecked GT3 cost me around $35k and this included the engine, tranny, ecu, wiring harness and all the other parts off the car. And then there was maybe another $20-30k or so in other parts including the seats, brakes, suspension, the actual GT3 rear wing. I should really sit down and do the accounting but that kind of takes the fun out of it. :^)
We're not too far away from finishing. Definitely before summer. We started actual dismantling of the transplant car around fall of last year. It hasn't been full time since you have to just keep working until you run into a problem. It's really tough to tell what all parts we needed until you actually get to working on that part. We had a problem with finding one of the transmission parts that broke during freighting and this held us up for about 2 months.
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What were the issues with fitting the engine? Did it not just drop right in??
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Yes and no. The issue is that it's the same motor that's used in the 996TT/GT2. Thus it uses the same mounts. If you get a chance try looking in the rear corners of a TT to compare what it looks like in a regular 996C2. It's really different. My mechanic theorizes that the GT3 is really a TT/GT2 tub with the narrow rear fenders. So the GT3 engine "fits" in the 996C2, but the mounts are different so things just don't line up quite right.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><strong>
The info on the sunroof is interesting. There has been a lot of conjecture on whether the weight difference is substantial. So now we know.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"></strong>
Yes, it's actually quite heavy. Next time I'm back in LA, I'm going to try and weigh everything to see. The no-sunroof panel is only a few lbs and really feels like a feather compared to the sunroof panel and all the structural supports for the sunroof.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><strong>
We have recently been discussing 5-point vs 6-point harnesses on the Ringers list. You might be interested in reading this link:
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Thanks for the tip. We'll definitely look into it.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Darren911:
<strong>"- Rear bumperettes removed and rear bumper cover holes filled in. I replaced my old bumper with the actual GT3"
How is your shop doing this exactly b/c I hate the bumperettes on my 03 cab and have the new GT3 nose and skirts being put on as well</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">You have to take the rear bumper cover off and have a paint shop shave over the holes or you can order the euro rear bumper. You also have to remove the steel bumperette pieces that attach to the rear bumper.
BTW, the US spec rear bumper (not the bumper cover, but the actual bumper) is heavier than the euro rear bumper. This must be due to DOT regulations.
<strong>"- Rear bumperettes removed and rear bumper cover holes filled in. I replaced my old bumper with the actual GT3"
How is your shop doing this exactly b/c I hate the bumperettes on my 03 cab and have the new GT3 nose and skirts being put on as well</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">You have to take the rear bumper cover off and have a paint shop shave over the holes or you can order the euro rear bumper. You also have to remove the steel bumperette pieces that attach to the rear bumper.
BTW, the US spec rear bumper (not the bumper cover, but the actual bumper) is heavier than the euro rear bumper. This must be due to DOT regulations.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by 01'996C-24ME:
<strong>Hi, was wondering will you be adding the 04 GT-3 wing or the 99-01 gt-3 wing??</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Personally, I'm not a big fan of the new wing so I'm sticking to the 99-01 GT3 wing. But I do like the new front. :^)
<strong>Hi, was wondering will you be adding the 04 GT-3 wing or the 99-01 gt-3 wing??</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Personally, I'm not a big fan of the new wing so I'm sticking to the 99-01 GT3 wing. But I do like the new front. :^)
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Finally...
The conversion is 99% complete. We got her running. It's been a long road and a comedy of errors.
I'll follow up later with a much longer post describing the details of the conversion and some pictures.
A quick question to anyone out there who has access to the Porsche IPAS database in Europe? If I give you an '01 996 GT3 VIN number, could you provide the relevant codes to be able to program and sync up all the electronics? Our current roadblock is that we had a few electronic components that we had to replace and we don't have all the IPAS info to program them with. If anyone could help or point me in the right direction 'twould be appreciated.
More coming soon.
I'll follow up later with a much longer post describing the details of the conversion and some pictures.
A quick question to anyone out there who has access to the Porsche IPAS database in Europe? If I give you an '01 996 GT3 VIN number, could you provide the relevant codes to be able to program and sync up all the electronics? Our current roadblock is that we had a few electronic components that we had to replace and we don't have all the IPAS info to program them with. If anyone could help or point me in the right direction 'twould be appreciated.
More coming soon.
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New pictures right before it went off to the paint shop for final detail and sand-polish. It's still missing the side skirts, rear wing, aero fins, side mirrors.
BTW, if anyone can help with getting access to the European IPAS database for Porsche VINs, please let me know. Thanks.
BTW, if anyone can help with getting access to the European IPAS database for Porsche VINs, please let me know. Thanks.
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The car is done and is in LA ready to be picked up. I've been so busy with a new company and their IPO, that I haven't had a chance to get down there. I should be heading back to LA in the next few weeks and should have some pictures and more details to follow up with. I can't wait.
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Originally Posted by kyopo
The car is done and is in LA ready to be picked up. I've been so busy with a new company and their IPO, that I haven't had a chance to get down there. I should be heading back to LA in the next few weeks and should have some pictures and more details to follow up with. I can't wait.
keep us update and congrats J.Seven
