fank

I know the topic of superchargers has been discussed several times in this forum, and I've used the search function and read all of the comments. Since I live in Dallas, I'm leaning toward the RUF system because of the convenience of having the shop so close and their great reputation for modifying Porsche engines.

My question is, has anyone in this forum actually had the RUF Supercharger installed that can give me some feedback? I've heard good things about EVO, but I definitely want to hear from someone who actually has the RUF system before I pull the trigger on this expensive mod.

Pics of the Supercharger installed would be an added bonus

Thanks

evo_333

No one that I know of on the forum has a RUF supercharger. May I ask (and be annoying), but for the amount of money for the RUF SC, have you thought about selling your car and getting a turbo?

LVDell

Excellent point. And you can get the TT as a CPO as well. My money is on the CPO TT not a RUF SC.

IIRC, they (RUF) are in the $20K plus range.

yetis

Well, I think you should get it. Let’s say your 996 is worth $35 in a trade, your not getting a TT for $55k, especially one with CPO. So, then your left with TT's out of warranty. The $20K gets you a 2 year engine warranty.

Then, is there a price/value for uniqueness? If so, you’re getting top dollar with the RUF SC.

Not saying there is great value here, but I don’t think its “out of this world” expensive, like many would have you believe.

deputydog95

ruf just did did their first one in north america, and it was on one of their own employee cars. you aren't going to find much customer feedback on this product because there aren't any he said it was $22K installed.

personally, i think it's a great product. however, i own an evo SC'd car and i think ruf way over engineered the kit. it's just way overkill for what they are trying to accomplish. you can get the same results with an evo kit for half the money. i know what the HP numbers on the kit are and so far i'm not impressed (sorry, promised not to post them).

i'll be shocked if they sell any at all. i think they have priced themselves out of the market. i have seen 01 tt's in the 50's now. you would be better off selling your NA car and getting a TT. if you order a ruf SC'd 997 from the factory you're looking at probably well over 100K by the time you're done, and that's without any real options. Might as well just get a GT3 at that point. Or for that matter, with the way you can option these cars (sticker on my 02 cab was about 100K), you could be well into 997 turbo pricing. i just don't see who's going to chunk out that much money for a SC kit, especially one that can't be serviced locally. what happens when your two year warranty runs out? might get a little pricey flying ruf techs out to your house

i know fank is in dallas, but i'm just speaking in general for the rest of us that don't live near the ruf auto centre...

LVDell

Chris, doesn't RUF have limits on what the car's engine can have mileage wise? Or is it just a blanket 2 year warranty on the COMPLETE engine regardless of miles, etc.?

Just curious.

fank

Let me clarify a little. I currently own a 2000 cab with 24,000 miles that I'd like to keep for the next few years. An 01 turbo would cost in the low 70's, and I couldn't get a cab turbo unless I moved up to the 04, which is now pushing closer to 100k. So, if I want a significant increase in power without giving up the cab, it seems the supercharger is the way to go.

I'm sure EVO does a good job, but I do see value in having the work done by RUF, who is local, warranties their work for two years, and probably know the Porsche engine and it's capabilities better than any other aftermarket shop. Still, I'm hesitant to spend so much money on something that no one else has tried, I may just wait another 6 months to a year and see if more people give it a shot or if RUF drops the price a little to put themselves closer to the competiition.

deputydog95

first, you can get an 01 turbo for much less than that. one just went on 6speed for high 50's.
second, i agree on the turbo cab, but it's going to cost a hell of a lot more than 100K. probably more like 120K, and that would be a bargain.

ruf is an excellent company. however, you're not really getting anything special over what the evo offers. i'm sure giac know what software as well as ruf does. even though ruf has a relationship with porsche, they are aftermarket too, to a certain degree. supercharging the 996 isn't rocket science. the software is the most complicated part and evo seems to have that down.

however, if you want to spend about half of what your car is worth on a SC, i say go for it. i'd love to see some independent testing. the funny thing is, for all the extra "stuff" and technology that ruf puts into this kit and overcomplicating of the installation, it's making about the same rear wheel HP as my 3.6 Evo. i would have expected a lot more out of a kit that is going through the trouble of lowering the compression, raising the boost, and integrating the intercoolers intot the intake manifolds.

TT Surgeon

Dell, my understanding is that if you're >40k, you get a complete rebuild and the warranty.(Hope I'm the right Chris)

fank

Fair enough Deputy, but I've priced several 01 turbos and all of the ones that I'd consider buying (excellent condition, under 30k miles, silver or black) are going in the high 60s and low 70s.

You have raised some interesting points about the RUF kit, I wish someone had one that could give us some feedback. I'm going to give more consideration to the EVO before I make any decisions, but I'm not sure if they have any installers in the Dallas/FW area. I'll check into it this weekend

kilrgt

I am one for buying the best you can afford, I have decided to go with the EVO system. 1) its proven..2 its less then half the cost..3) you can play with it some more( meaning tweaking the ECU)I believe that RUF locks your programme, and if that the case only they can work on the part of the car.As you know more expensive doesnt mean its better...in this case I think its just more money.

teflon_jones

You guys need to read the warranty info because nobody has interpreted it correctly yet. RUF doesn't give you a 2 year warranty on the entire engine for any problems. They just warranty it for 2 years against any problems that the SC may cause.

sharkster

If that's the case then the EVO kit is similair in that it's a 2 year warranty on the parts too. I really want to see/try our a RuF one but I think it came to the market a bit too late on. Just as an FYI we did serial number 105 for the SC EV cars this week

teflon_jones

The EVO warranty is only on the SC parts, not the engine parts. If you blow your engine due to the EVO SC then you're going to be buying yourself a new engine. If you blow it due to the RUF SC then RUF will buy it for you. That's a $20K difference (roughly, not sure of the latest cost of a new 996 engine).

deputydog95

you can get a new 3.6 liter installed for about 8.5K

ruf is just making you pay for it up front hoping you don't need it