You can always go gold on the ATE......

-Eli

 

Not sure I follow Eli......

 

ATE has blue and gold. I was responding to the idea of alternating them. It doesn't work b/c the blue just stains everything (in my experience).

 

Maybe we should all go back and re-read our posts I thought we discussed that already? But if I used the gold, would I see the dilution of the blue to indicate that I have bled the brakes sufficiently to that point?

 

My experience is no, the effect was too subtle. YMMV

 

anybody with answers to the following...

until there is a proven way to activate the abs ....
- is it a waste of time to do the flush without activating the abs?
- how much fluid is in the abs pump?
- how does the fluid come from the reservior to the caliper when flushing without going through the abs pump?
thanks

 

No

Not certain, but it is not a great volume. The effect of the trapped fluid would depend upon how bad the condition of the fluid is. If the old fluid is not too bad, then not much of an effect. If it is really bad, then it is the weak link, at least it would seem

Think of it like a side reservoir. It does not "block" the fluid to the reservoir. It is just an area where the a relatively small volume of old fluid can remain trapped unless ABS is activated.

 

thanks for the reply..i think you have answered some of my concerns...
let us know when you have figured out the abs activation for flushing

 

Yes, I brought this up from the dead. I just ordered a pressure bleeder for about $50.

I wonder if it is such a big deal not to flush the ABS reservoir, isn't this like changing the oil without worrying about the oil in the cooler circuit? It gets diluted and flushed eventually.

 

That would be my guess too. Caveat could be that the fluid in the ABS reservoir would not move from there, and therefore never get diluted. That's probably a pretty long shot, esp. if you activate ABS every now and then.

 

Yeah, I'll just take it out on the next snowy day and hit the brakes. I don't know what California peeps would do, if by chance I activate my ABS on dry pavement with those monster brakes I'm about to crash anyway...

 

I just used the motive bleeder to bleed brakes, had ATE Blue in the reservoir and was swithcing to ATE Gold (Type 200), even after running almost 2 L of Gold through all 8 bleeder valves there is still a light blue tint to the fluid. I could distinguish between the new gold and old blue by the shade of the fluid. It was much more evident going to blue from gold that I was getting the new fluid at the bleeder valve.

 

I decided to stay with the gold fluid. I figure it is easy enough to bleed at least twice a year. Have you used the motive on the clutch hydraulics? I hear it is a pain to do...

 

You do it the same way, so it is not that hard to do (although, without a lift, reaching the bolt is a "little" challenging. The only problem I had was that I do not put fluid in the motive (so that it stays clean), and I drained too much fluid and put air in the system the first time(s).

 

ouch. I wonder if the Motive can be cleaned with methanol... I expect it can.