TT Surgeon

How do you do that?
Never mind, just found the link, how long does it take?

Rob in WA

Nice gif OE

Kevin H. in Atl..

Dell, question:
Is the RoW M030 10mm lower in front than RoW Standard, for a total of 20mm lower than US?

Orient Express

The side marker blinker mod takes about a half an hour to do. It is very easy.

LVDell

Oops, looks like fingers got moving faster than my brain.

Here is the breakdown with US standard being the baseline:

Front:
US standard and US sport front are the same. RoW standard is 10MM lower and RoW sport is 20MM lower.

Rear:
US standard and US sport rear are the same. RoW standard is the same as well but RoW sport is 10MM lower.

US Std (F 158MM R158MM)
US Sport (F 158MM R158MM
RoW Std (F 148MM R 158MM)
RoW Sport (F 138MM 148MM)

These are all in a PCA article that discusses the differences between them all. If anybody is interested in a copy of it just email me.

CHeers,
Dell

autobahnNY

I would go with 5mm spacers up front. Along with the 15mm in rear, it gives the rear a more pronounced, wider look.

LVDell

I did 5MM spacers all the way around (factory kit that has the 5 MM spacers (4) and the new bolts and locks). IMHO is perfect. I wouldn't want more in the rear. But, like tires, exhaust, etc, this is a personal preference.

Res Ips

Hey Lee...

Love the look but...about 5 months ago I got pulled over up by Lewis and Clark Law school just going down Terwilliger into LO. The cop was real nice and really liked my car and reminded me that Oregon Vehicle Code 816.180b "reflectors" states: "forward side reflectors and intermediate side reflectors shall be amber".

Being a rather argumentative law professor, I explained that the bulb was amber, thus complying with 816.190(2)(b), rendering the reflector amber in color with in the 'on' position meeting the intent of 816.180b. Like I said the cop was a nice guy, and told me he could cite me, so I could argue the case with the judge or I could just fix them back to amber. He also said that the cops know that side markers are being changed in all types of cars by their owners, so it is a pretty easy thing for them to spot...

Anyway, love the look...nice car, man.

Jim

LVDell

Jim, is that an Oregon law? Funny that the law requires the lens to be amber. My other car (MB) side markers are clear with amber bulbs (factory installed not aftermarket nor an option). Obviously I am not in OR but I find it odd that they require the plastic to be amber. FYI....if they are calling them reflectors then they are incorrect becasue they are markers, reflectors "reflect" and I haven't see a car yet that reflects on it's side markers.

leedav

Did you fix them back to amber, or are you flouting the law?

Occurs to me you could leave them on, but as I recall it's unlawful in OR to have your parking lights on during the day, too.

leedav

BTW, I'd be willing to go to court and advocate coverage under 816.190 as you suggested, making the case that it is a light, not a reflector.

If I lost, I think they'd have to cite Sunset Imports under 816.030 then...(selling non-complying lighting equipment)

Res Ips

Hi Dell...

Yes. Its Oregon law...Vehicle Code, ORS; Title 59; chapter 816 sections 180 thru and inclusive of 190. I don't believe there is any state in the union that is different as most vehicle codes are, in essence, very similar, though without knowing specifically each state's code, I cannot say for certain. It is my knowledge that when P/cars enter domestic US ports they are all equipped with reflectors which are amber in color so that no state is different.

Further, the law (section 816.180(5) states that 'reflectors required to be mounted on the sides of the vehicle shall reflect the required color [amber] of light to the sides..."

Theoretically, a police officer could site a P/car driver with not only an equipment violation of 816.180(1)(b), PO could also cite for violation of 816.180(5) if PO observed the lack of colored reflectance from the side marker.

Here's a partial print out:

ORS 816.180

816.180. Each of the following is a requirement for reflectors
as indicated:
(1) The following are the colors for the indicated type of
reflector:
(a) Rear reflectors and rearward side reflectors shall be red.
(b) Forward side reflectors and intermediate side reflectors
shall be amber.
(2) The following types of reflectors shall be placed as
indicated:
(a) Rear reflectors shall be mounted on the rear of the
vehicle. If more than one rear reflector is required under ORS
816.320 and 816.330, there shall be at least one rear reflector
on either side of the rear of the vehicle. On pole trailers, rear
reflectors may be mounted on each side of the bolster or load.
(b) Forward side reflectors shall be mounted on the side of the
vehicle near the front of the vehicle.
(c) Intermediate side reflectors shall be mounted on the side
of the vehicle at or near the midpoint between the forward side
reflectors and the rearward side reflectors.
(d) Rearward side reflectors shall be mounted on the side of
the vehicle near the rear of the vehicle.
(3) Reflectors shall be mounted on a vehicle at a height not
less than 15 inches and not more than 60 inches above the ground
on which the vehicle stands.
(4) Reflectors shall be of such size or characteristics and so
mounted and maintained as to be readily visible at night within
500 feet to 50 feet from the vehicle when directly in front of
lawful upper beams of headlights.
(5) Reflectors required to be mounted on the sides of the
vehicle shall reflect the required color of light to the sides
and those mounted on the rear shall reflect the required color to
the rear.




Jim

LVDell

Very interesting Jim, then it begs the question as to why MB is importing their cars with clear lenses and amber bulbs???

Res Ips

Now...would I ever flout the law? I admit nothing. I deny nothing. When I take a shower I don't even get wet.

I used to be called Mr. Teflon, however, to answer your question directly the ambers are back.

BTW, I don't know of any section of the VC that prohibits having your parking lights on during the day...but that doesn't mean that it isn't in the code...I could only find the following on parking lights...

Maybe the next time you get stopped you could ask Officer Winky about it...

Anyway...

816.130 Parking lights. Each of the following is a requirement for parking lights as indicated:

(1) Parking lights shall be on the roadway side of the vehicle when a vehicle is parked or stopped upon a roadway or shoulder adjacent thereto.

(2) Parking lights shall exhibit a white or amber light visible to the front of the vehicle and a red light visible to the rear of the vehicle.

(3) Parking lights shall be visible from a distance of 500 feet to the front of the vehicle and from a distance of 500 feet to the rear of the vehicle. [1983 c.338 §458 (10); 1985 c.16 §240 (10); 1985 c.69 §1 (10); 1985 c.71 §4 (10); 1985 c.393 §13 (10); 1985 c.420 §6 (10)]

Jim

leedav

Jim,

I found this re the parking lights.

"(2) Parking lights and lights other than clearance, identification and marker lights that are mounted on the front of a vehicle and are designed to be displayed primarily when the vehicle is parked shall not be lighted when a vehicle is driven upon a highway at times when limited visibility conditions exist except when:

(a) The lights are being used as turn signals; or

(b) The headlights are also lighted at the same time.

(3) Any vehicle parked or stopped upon a roadway or shoulder adjacent thereto, whether attended or unattended, during times when limited visibility conditions exist must display parking lights."

This says to me that you can't use parking lights in bad weather alone, you have to have headlights on or not at all....They have WAY too many traffic laws in this state IMHO.