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Old 02-10-2005, 12:42 AM
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if you HAVE to do this mod, go with OEM, x74 or the GT3 struts
Old 02-10-2005, 12:47 AM
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^ u mean the GT3 adjustables that gert sells in combo with the pss9's?
Old 02-10-2005, 01:03 AM
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Gotta get that monitor de-forked

The "stabilizers" are "swaybars". Porsche calls the factory "thingies" we're talking about "dome struts" and there are 2 part numbers L/R. They go between the strut domes (body sheetmetal) and the firewall. The aftermarket "strut bars" go between the strut domes themselves by way of slipping in under the strut hat mounting nuts.

I haven't contacted Lindsey, but someone should be able to see if that P/N is real or not.
Old 02-10-2005, 05:56 PM
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I was surprised when I saw my MY02 brace. Can someone confirm if 99-01 have one also?

I also saw a small trickle charger next to my battery. Car was stored in winter and previous owner left it. I guess I'll leave it there in case I ever need to store it.
Old 02-10-2005, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Carrera Mike
Its those black tubes running from the tower braces to the center of the firewall, behind the battery. This is much better design than the aftermarket ones(IMHO) which usually attaches to one side of the strut tower only which causes twisting motion/stress to the towers/struts. Like I said, this is a MY02. Hopefully all Model Year of the 996s have them and like J seven said all 986. So, I'd say save your money for some other upgrade.
All 9x6 cars have this. Plus, the shock towers are joined together by the firewall. Adding a strut tower brace will do nothing additional. But, some people like the looks and want bragging rights.
Old 02-10-2005, 06:19 PM
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Interesting...my 99 does not have those. I could weld some in !?!

C.
Old 02-10-2005, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by arenared
I haven't contacted Lindsey, but someone should be able to see if that P/N is real or not.
Ok, for all Boxsters and 996 icluding GT3:

Up to MY 2002:

996.504.233.00 - L
996.504.234.00 - R

From MY 2002 (2003 for GT3):

996.504.233.01 - L
996.504.234.01 - R
Old 02-10-2005, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by arenared
The "stabilizers" are "swaybars".
Stabilizer bars are anti-roll bars. Cars haven't swayed much since the unibody concept was introduced. Sway bar is the wrong term for these.
Old 02-10-2005, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Viken
All 9x6 cars have this. Plus, the shock towers are joined together by the firewall. Adding a strut tower brace will do nothing additional. But, some people like the looks and want bragging rights.
Whats a 9X6 car? I totally disagree that the firewall alone, just because it share the same piece of metal sheet as the tower brace will reinforce it. Look at the angle of those tubes. Basic engineering will tell you that they are counteracting the forces of cornering which tends to move the towers inward.

You really think Porsche engineers will endorse or design these factory pieces for people to have bragging rights??
Old 02-11-2005, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Viken
Stabilizer bars are anti-roll bars. Cars haven't swayed much since the unibody concept was introduced. Sway bar is the wrong term for these.
Picky, picky Sorry, I should have said "more commonly referred to as swaybars". Neither do they introduce sway as the term would suggest, either. Maybe you can send a suggestion over to the guys at TRG, Lindsey, and to everyone else who calls them inappropriately:

http://www.theracersgroup.com/parts/...s/swaybars.htm
http://www.lindseyracing.com/986sus1.htm

LOL.
bigbye
Old 02-11-2005, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Carrera Mike
Whats a 9X6 car? I totally disagree that the firewall alone, just because it share the same piece of metal sheet as the tower brace will reinforce it. Look at the angle of those tubes. Basic engineering will tell you that they are counteracting the forces of cornering which tends to move the towers inward. You really think Porsche engineers will endorse or design these factory pieces for people to have bragging rights??
I think you misunderstood. I was not referring to the factory installed braces to the left and right. I was referring to the silly *aftermarket* strut tower braces which are clearly unnecessary.

A 9x6 is a 986 and a 996 together as the share many parts..
Old 02-11-2005, 03:58 PM
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I have to agree with the vote of save your money on the strut bars. I once read in Pannorama that the front strut towers are tied in to the firewall and these braces are nothing more than a marketing ploy to get your money. The $250-300 could be used to get something much more valuable to your handling such as GT3 sway bars or if you're picky know it all anti-roll bars. FWIW I have M030 suspension and I go down this street every day that intersect with a hill that I must make a right turn on. The turn also has a dip where the hill and street meet, and when I make that turn I could feel the car lift one of the wheels off the ground because the chassis is so stiff. The point is the car does not need this strut bar.
Old 02-11-2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Viken
I think you misunderstood. I was not referring to the factory installed braces to the left and right. I was referring to the silly *aftermarket* strut tower braces which are clearly unnecessary. A 9x6 is a 986 and a 996 together as the share many parts..
I see. I thought you meant other wise..

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Old 02-11-2005, 06:35 PM
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I would agree that a strut bar won't do much. I haven't seen a single 996 based race car using one.

Eddie, FWIW regarding lifting a wheel, that likely has more to do with the opposite corner not having enough compression resistance than strut tower movement.

Regarding those of you taking a shot at Viken. I would point out that he has provided more valuable technical information to this board than all others combined so cut him some slack.
Jim

Just my 2 cents worth.
Old 02-11-2005, 06:49 PM
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JimB,

I've corresponded with Viken so many times. I hope you didn't mean me as taking shot at him. I was just clarifying some misunderstood points. I wasn't born yesterday in this forum.


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