replacing the oxygen sensors, reality check
#16
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Yes, for the benefit of anyone who comes after I will say start with the passenger side. Access is pretty good there. If you have bigger hands the driver side can be a bit more difficult. Getting the sensor to move shouldn't be too hard because that access is pretty good but fiddling it out is easier if you start shoving the coolant hoses around an inch or two as you work. ""Coolant hoses, dammit Jim, I'm an air cool guy."
The connectors in the engine bay may be accessible without removing the air box but I think it's tough and better to just remove the Box. They are mercifully easy to manipulate once you can get to them. And they are configured such that Replacements can only be installed one way.
I was worried about starting the threads of the new sensors without cross threading but they went in without issue and came with anti-seize already applied.
If the weather cooperates I will get the air box reinstalled and do an electrical handoff tomorrow before I go for a spin to give the computer a chance to adapt.
Left-y loose-y etc.
Last edited by Otto Bonn; 01-24-2023 at 01:20 AM.
#17
Rennlist Member
I did a set on a friend's car recently. Removing the air box makes accessing the connectors easy. 22mm crows foot. Try spinning the sensor out using the connector wire, I think I did that with drivers side post cat.
#18
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Definitely soak them in PB Blaster (or equal) before removal. he O2 sensors had rusted in pretty well on mine. I removed the cats for better access and they still snapped off. I was able to drill them out and just re-tap the threads with a Harbor Freight tap, but it did add a couple of hours to the job.
#19
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See what I mean ? Kris did not remove anything and I can't even hardly put air in my tires without removing the air box. But now that I've come to terms with removing the air box, I'm wondering what else I'm supposed to remove, at least with respect to the driver side.
Haven't even touched the other one, yet. Maybe it's easier. Certainly would be hard to get to the passenger side connectors with the air box in the way, or maybe not. That's next.
Haven't even touched the other one, yet. Maybe it's easier. Certainly would be hard to get to the passenger side connectors with the air box in the way, or maybe not. That's next.
#20
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Thanks guys. Lucky for me my car has led a somewhat protected life and there is no corrosion at the sensors. I didn't even need a crow's foot, just a standard open end which had to be flipped back and forth occasionally in order to engage the sensor.
I thought about twisting the wires but didn't want to ruin the sensors in case I need to use them for testing purposes in the future. Starting the threads on the driver's side required me to use my fingers like Chopsticks and it actually worked like a charm.
In summary I would say there was nothing else that needed to be disassembled in my case. I would advise those who replaced their sensors in the future that this would be sufficient. As for those people who had to remove their catalytic converters, drill things and tap things, my hats off. In this case I got off easy and dodged that thrill.
I thought about twisting the wires but didn't want to ruin the sensors in case I need to use them for testing purposes in the future. Starting the threads on the driver's side required me to use my fingers like Chopsticks and it actually worked like a charm.
In summary I would say there was nothing else that needed to be disassembled in my case. I would advise those who replaced their sensors in the future that this would be sufficient. As for those people who had to remove their catalytic converters, drill things and tap things, my hats off. In this case I got off easy and dodged that thrill.
Last edited by Otto Bonn; 01-24-2023 at 10:56 PM.
#21
Three Wheelin'
When I took my exhaust off to pull the engine,, I had the cats laying on the floor,
I finally took them to a friends with a compressor, heated them with a torch and
used a nasty 1/2inch air impact to get the sensors out..
No way would those have come out in the car..
Heat-pbblaster-repeat.
I finally took them to a friends with a compressor, heated them with a torch and
used a nasty 1/2inch air impact to get the sensors out..
No way would those have come out in the car..
Heat-pbblaster-repeat.
#22
Thanks guys. Lucky for me my car has led a somewhat protected life and there is no corrosion at the sensors. I didn't even need a crow's foot, just a standard open end which had to be flipped back and forth occasionally in order to engage the sensor.
I thought about twisting the wires but didn't want to ruin the sensors in case I need to use them for testing purposes in the future. Starting the threads on the driver's side required me to use my fingers like Chopsticks and it actually worked like a charm.
In summary I would say there was nothing else that needed to be disassembled in my case. I would advise those who replaced their sensors in the future that this would be sufficient. As for those people who had to remove their catalytic converters, drill things and tap things, my hats off. In this case I got off easy and dodged that thrill.
I thought about twisting the wires but didn't want to ruin the sensors in case I need to use them for testing purposes in the future. Starting the threads on the driver's side required me to use my fingers like Chopsticks and it actually worked like a charm.
In summary I would say there was nothing else that needed to be disassembled in my case. I would advise those who replaced their sensors in the future that this would be sufficient. As for those people who had to remove their catalytic converters, drill things and tap things, my hats off. In this case I got off easy and dodged that thrill.
#23
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
When I took my exhaust off to pull the engine,, I had the cats laying on the floor,
I finally took them to a friends with a compressor, heated them with a torch and
used a nasty 1/2inch air impact to get the sensors out..
No way would those have come out in the car..
Heat-pbblaster-repeat.
I finally took them to a friends with a compressor, heated them with a torch and
used a nasty 1/2inch air impact to get the sensors out..
No way would those have come out in the car..
Heat-pbblaster-repeat.
Nice work. Better you than me. That would have put me back.
I'm all buttoned up and have started the adaptation process. Took a little drive this afternoon in Hood River to prove it all works.
Now I can get back to other interests and find my happy space like last week...