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RyanH. 03-28-2021 10:36 PM

3.6L 996.2 Fuel Injectors in 3.4L 996.1 How To
 
I couldn't find pictures or a writeup for this so I took some while I hacked a bunch of injectors. I'm sure there's a better way to notch the injectors but I used the cutting wheel on a dremel.

Here they are side by side (white is 3.6 and black is 3.4)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...72d48329b7.jpg

The notch for the clip is 9.22mm from the top on the 3.4 injectors.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5e156b6eaf.jpg

Fortunately, this happens to be right where the seam is on the 3.6L injectors:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c09bf7734c.jpg
Mark them up with Sharpie to aid visibility when cutting:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e4e5b695ee.jpg
Not pretty but it's serviceable:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f9c56790a3.jpg
Test fitting:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8e6ff47972.jpg

There's a piece that sticks out of the injector body that indexes to the clip. I tried bending the tabs on one of the clips and both broke so I'm not sure how to get the anti rotation tabs engaged. If anyone has ideas, all ears.

Also, replacing the injectors makes me empathize with dentists as working in such a little space is quite the challenge.

CharlieBravo 03-28-2021 10:55 PM

Are those injectors made in China? 😬

yaz996 03-28-2021 11:20 PM

Responded in the "What did you do..." thread with some pics of my injector mods. Looks like you got the hang of it.

RyanH. 03-28-2021 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by yaz996 (Post 17328158)
Responded in the "What did you do..." thread with some pics of my injector mods. Looks like you got the hang of it.

Except you did a million times better job:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5bf4cf6255.jpg

How did you notch it?

De Jeeper 03-28-2021 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by CharlieBravo (Post 17328105)
Are those injectors made in China? 😬


many bosch items r genuine and now made in china. My mk2 injectors were slso made in china.

yaz996 03-29-2021 08:40 AM

Steady hands and a Dremel

RyanH. 03-29-2021 05:59 PM

@yaz996 what did you end up doing about the anti-rotation tab?

nrp3 03-29-2021 06:24 PM

Having just done mine, would that clip be different and lower for the MK2?

barbancourt 03-29-2021 06:52 PM

I guess I’ll ask some dumb questions. Why upgrade the injectors on a stock 3.4L (I’m assuming) engine to the 3.6L ones, and don’t they already have upgraded injectors that fit without modification?

sweet victory 03-29-2021 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by RyanH. (Post 17328176)
Except you did a million times better job:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5bf4cf6255.jpg

How did you notch it?

I like the DO NOT MODIFY text on the box next to your modified injectors. :roflmao:

yaz996 03-29-2021 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by RyanH. (Post 17329754)
@yaz996 what did you end up doing about the anti-rotation tab?

Didn't do anything. After the rails were bolted down, I wasn't worried about them going anywhere. Mk2 clips would be a good idea.


Originally Posted by barbancourt (Post 17329876)
I guess I’ll ask some dumb questions. Why upgrade the injectors on a stock 3.4L (I’m assuming) engine to the 3.6L ones, and don’t they already have upgraded injectors that fit without modification?

Way cheaper. There's a thread somewhere stating that have a better spray pattern and around a 10% higher output. Seemed appropriate for my 3.8L.


Originally Posted by sweet victory (Post 17329882)
I like the DO NOT MODIFY text on the box next to your modified injectors. :roflmao:

Framed the shot with the box as an "attempt at your own risk" warning. (Ryan snagged that pic from my other post)

Porschetech3 03-29-2021 08:37 PM

Yea, there was a thread a few years ago where everyone was bitchin about the cost of the 3.4 injectors being 4x more $$ than anything else.

The 3.4 uses EV1 metal body "pintle style" injectors.
The 3.6 came out with EV6 plastic "4 hole disk style" but still used the Minitimer connector (EV1) instead of the USCAR connector used on most all other EV6 injectors, so no wiring adaptor needed.

Plus the 10% more flow is better suited for the E10 fuel A/F ratio that is now ran in the 3.4 and will remain closer to ideal Lamda 1 (stoich)..The 996.1 was not designed for E10 so the 996.2 injector is a better fit flow wise.

So using the 996.2 injector in the 996.1 is a win-win-win, better spray pattern, better A/F Lamda 1 , lower cost $$$ ....

RyanH. 03-29-2021 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by barbancourt (Post 17329876)
I guess I’ll ask some dumb questions. Why upgrade the injectors on a stock 3.4L (I’m assuming) engine to the 3.6L ones, and don’t they already have upgraded injectors that fit without modification?

Yes, for $300 per injector for refurbed ones. Pelican doesn't even have new ones available vs $30 per injector for 996.2

barbancourt 03-30-2021 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by RyanH. (Post 17330530)
Yes, for $300 per injector for refurbed ones. Pelican doesn't even have new ones available vs $30 per injector for 996.2

Wow. Makes sense.

Flat6 Innovations 03-30-2021 11:31 AM

I use a hacksaw blade for the mod.


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