Argeo

The alignment guy said he could get camber to -1.9 deg and the closest he could get was -1.5. I was told toe would be an issue so I had adjustable toe arms put on.

2002 C4S , put on H&R and Bilstein's that go with the lowering springs, I think B8.

Anything else I need to do?

Thanks.

zbomb

I’m a little confused.

What did did your alignment settings for camber and toe come to, both F and R ?

What did you want them to be ?

What is the intended use of car and what tires are you running ?

Any other mods besides the damper/spring and adjustable toe arm (assuming those are in the rear) ?

Argeo

The car is for street use. No track, occasional get on a little bit but not much. Tires are cheap sumi something. They were new when I bought so left on. Trying to get to the rear to -1.5, currently at -1.9.

Thanks.

zbomb

I wouldn’t worry about it if the toe is good, toe is what kills tires.

Likely if the eccentric is maxed you will have to go to adjustable upper arms and I really don’t think that would be worth it.

Argeo

Tires are 225/40 zr18 front and 295/3 zr18 rear

golock911

Agreed with zbomb. Number looks OK to me.

Toe being off will feather the tire. Camber being off will wear to whatever side, in this case the inside. The -1.5 predisposes it. But the performance gain is worth some miles shorter tire life. (invoking the 'it's not a Toyota' rule)

I had the same problem when I took mine in for the first alignment. He couldn't get the camber to -1.5. I drove it for a year, likely more aggressively than the PO, had it realigned. This time he was able to adjust it in. I attribute this to old bushings in the LCA. I'm not worried about it wandering from -1.5 to -2, if it is doing that. The car handles great, doesn't pull, crab, or track. No clunks. I'll have it checked again in August or so when it's back from Georgia and I've installed the Ohlins.

Unless you've got some weird handling, don't worry about it. It's in better shape now than when you bought it!

Argeo

Okay, I will tell him to leave at -1.9 and wrap this up. Thank you both for the quick responses.

hbdunn

I thought you had ordered the toe arms for the rear?

NE1N-11

I have B8's on H&R springs and got to -1.8 degrees of camber in the rear. I have no issues with tie wear as others have mentioned, that's the byproduct of incorrect toe.

Argeo

Got back, new bilstein struts, h&r springs, mounts, and adj toe arms. Busy winter. I hopefully will be done for a while.

Definitely handles better back road.
Thanks all.

zbomb

Looks good but the ride height looks wee bit wonky with the rear slammed and the front...not.

Maybe it’s an angle thing... Maybe add some spacers, rear wheels look really inset in the wheel wells.

Argeo

I don't know if the slope or not. Why would it not level out if the springs and struts are suppose to work together? All new stuff. Is there another setting?

All set with spacers. I worked on my son's Miata this weekend, worst part of the job.

zbomb

Spacers just slide on... not sure what issue you had but a 20MM would likely help bring that tire out.

Are those factory wheels ?

As far as ride height, maybe the slope or my eyes playing tricks.

In any event, good looking car !

Argeo

Yeah, his were just a PIA. The design was lousy and whoever put them overtightened them. I had a set on Boxster that weren't a problem. They did look nice. Yes, they are original wheels.

JTT

I went through the same stuff with my C2. I put on adjustable upper control arms, but I believe it was the adjustable toe links that made the biggest difference in tire wear, even though we could get the toe into spec with the stock ones.