fast turn signal; bad connection at headlight unit connector
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So, I have the well-documented intermittent fast turn signal problem. I've read many, many posts on the subject. I'm convinced my problem is not at the bulb/bulb socket, because when I apply a bit of pressure to the unit as a whole, it starts working again.
The female connector (that remains inside the bumper) wiggles a bit. I don't know if that's normal or not, but nothing appears to be broken.
So, I need to improve the connection between the male pins on the unit and the female socket in the headlight tray. I've sprayed electrical cleaner in there, which has not permanently fixed the problem.
How exactly do I bend the male pins to improve connectivity? Thanks!
The female connector (that remains inside the bumper) wiggles a bit. I don't know if that's normal or not, but nothing appears to be broken.
So, I need to improve the connection between the male pins on the unit and the female socket in the headlight tray. I've sprayed electrical cleaner in there, which has not permanently fixed the problem.
How exactly do I bend the male pins to improve connectivity? Thanks!
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Very carefully!
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Whoa...I was just searching around to see if I could find an answer to my problem and lo and behold... I think this is my very issue.
Took the car out for a half hour spin today... Halfway through as I was getting ready to switch lanes on the freeway, my left signal did the hyper-blink thing... So I thought, great a bulb is out. Once I parked back home I did some troubleshooting and went to the first suspect, the very recently installed OEM clear side marker lights. I popped the driver side and pulled the bulb out...Nope, bulb looks good...still getting no blinky action..so I thought maybe the connectors on it... I checked and they were tight as can be and clear of any corrosion.
I then noticed the headlamp's turn signal wasn't working, either. So now I began to think...wiring issue. So, I guess my question is... Do the fronts share/terminate on the same spot? If I'm having the same issue as @mrfeh , would that affect the marker light for that side, also?
Took the car out for a half hour spin today... Halfway through as I was getting ready to switch lanes on the freeway, my left signal did the hyper-blink thing... So I thought, great a bulb is out. Once I parked back home I did some troubleshooting and went to the first suspect, the very recently installed OEM clear side marker lights. I popped the driver side and pulled the bulb out...Nope, bulb looks good...still getting no blinky action..so I thought maybe the connectors on it... I checked and they were tight as can be and clear of any corrosion.
I then noticed the headlamp's turn signal wasn't working, either. So now I began to think...wiring issue. So, I guess my question is... Do the fronts share/terminate on the same spot? If I'm having the same issue as @mrfeh , would that affect the marker light for that side, also?
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I found mine (Pass Turn signal) 996.2 had lost contact when I twisted the connector holding bulb had a little corrosion on the contact point, The wiring/connector if not mistaken should be floating to align when the Light module is placed into fender.
The Turn signal bulb rests in a small housing that when placed in socket and turn, makes electrical contact. Small white corrosion enough to make it appear build was out.
Comes back if don't do good job cleaning it up.
Mike
The Turn signal bulb rests in a small housing that when placed in socket and turn, makes electrical contact. Small white corrosion enough to make it appear build was out.
Comes back if don't do good job cleaning it up.
Mike
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I found mine (Pass Turn signal) 996.2 had lost contact when I twisted the connector holding bulb had a little corrosion on the contact point, The wiring/connector if not mistaken should be floating to align when the Light module is placed into fender.
The Turn signal bulb rests in a small housing that when placed in socket and turn, makes electrical contact. Small white corrosion enough to make it appear build was out.
Comes back if don't do good job cleaning it up.
Mike
The Turn signal bulb rests in a small housing that when placed in socket and turn, makes electrical contact. Small white corrosion enough to make it appear build was out.
Comes back if don't do good job cleaning it up.
Mike
Thanks!
Eddie
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yes, Turn signal in the headlight assembly and can play havoc w Side marker
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Whoa...I was just searching around to see if I could find an answer to my problem and lo and behold... I think this is my very issue.
Took the car out for a half hour spin today... Halfway through as I was getting ready to switch lanes on the freeway, my left signal did the hyper-blink thing... So I thought, great a bulb is out. Once I parked back home I did some troubleshooting and went to the first suspect, the very recently installed OEM clear side marker lights. I popped the driver side and pulled the bulb out...Nope, bulb looks good...still getting no blinky action..so I thought maybe the connectors on it... I checked and they were tight as can be and clear of any corrosion.
I then noticed the headlamp's turn signal wasn't working, either. So now I began to think...wiring issue. So, I guess my question is... Do the fronts share/terminate on the same spot? If I'm having the same issue as @mrfeh , would that affect the marker light for that side, also?
Took the car out for a half hour spin today... Halfway through as I was getting ready to switch lanes on the freeway, my left signal did the hyper-blink thing... So I thought, great a bulb is out. Once I parked back home I did some troubleshooting and went to the first suspect, the very recently installed OEM clear side marker lights. I popped the driver side and pulled the bulb out...Nope, bulb looks good...still getting no blinky action..so I thought maybe the connectors on it... I checked and they were tight as can be and clear of any corrosion.
I then noticed the headlamp's turn signal wasn't working, either. So now I began to think...wiring issue. So, I guess my question is... Do the fronts share/terminate on the same spot? If I'm having the same issue as @mrfeh , would that affect the marker light for that side, also?
- the connector for the entire head light unit
- the connector for the bulb within the unit
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Will be inspecting today. Thanks for your insight on this!
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No luck for me. Although, I'm a dummy and realized that the side markers don't actually blink with the turn signals, so scratch anything I previously mentioned revolving around those.
I inspected the turn signal bulb and inner/outer contacts and they were perfect. No corrosion, not bent in unnatural ways... Although, it's pretty much impossible to test for proper contact without destroying the headlight (remove the clear cover), so I had to rely on visual inspection, as well as the general "friction" feel when twisting the bulb back into the assembly.
I checked the harness connector with a flashlight... Again, all pins looked good and didn't seem "stretched out" or bent in any way. However, after identifying the one for the signal (lower-left corner pin at the harness when looking at it directly), I was able to confirm it is receiving proper voltage when the signal is on. My multimeter would flick fast when the signal was set to left and at a normal pace when I had the hazards on. I used a very fine metal tool to put a bit of pressure on the upper and lower contacts to make sure they were creating a tight connection.
I then sprayed some anti-corrosion solution very carefully into all pins, as well as the contacts at the headlight assembly connector and cleaned everything up.
I removed and reseated the headlight assembly multiple times (carefully) just to be certain and tested both in the "unlocked" and "locked" positions, and even tried carefully putting pressure on different spots while in the unlocked position to see if I'd get any amber bulb action...
The final thing I did was remove the xenon ballast unit and inspect the wiring from the connector. At least from the connector end everything seemed fine. Also, everything looked very clean and no signs of either corrosion or water/washer fluid intrusion.
Nothing worked. Basically, I have no front driver-side signal and I'm stumped.
The last thing to do would be to take the assembly apart further (as much as it is possible without having to hack it up) and see if there are any loose wires at the bulb-connector end. You can sort of see in there at the signal bulb opening and all wires looked to be intact and making proper contact.
I inspected the turn signal bulb and inner/outer contacts and they were perfect. No corrosion, not bent in unnatural ways... Although, it's pretty much impossible to test for proper contact without destroying the headlight (remove the clear cover), so I had to rely on visual inspection, as well as the general "friction" feel when twisting the bulb back into the assembly.
I checked the harness connector with a flashlight... Again, all pins looked good and didn't seem "stretched out" or bent in any way. However, after identifying the one for the signal (lower-left corner pin at the harness when looking at it directly), I was able to confirm it is receiving proper voltage when the signal is on. My multimeter would flick fast when the signal was set to left and at a normal pace when I had the hazards on. I used a very fine metal tool to put a bit of pressure on the upper and lower contacts to make sure they were creating a tight connection.
I then sprayed some anti-corrosion solution very carefully into all pins, as well as the contacts at the headlight assembly connector and cleaned everything up.
I removed and reseated the headlight assembly multiple times (carefully) just to be certain and tested both in the "unlocked" and "locked" positions, and even tried carefully putting pressure on different spots while in the unlocked position to see if I'd get any amber bulb action...
The final thing I did was remove the xenon ballast unit and inspect the wiring from the connector. At least from the connector end everything seemed fine. Also, everything looked very clean and no signs of either corrosion or water/washer fluid intrusion.
Nothing worked. Basically, I have no front driver-side signal and I'm stumped.
The last thing to do would be to take the assembly apart further (as much as it is possible without having to hack it up) and see if there are any loose wires at the bulb-connector end. You can sort of see in there at the signal bulb opening and all wires looked to be intact and making proper contact.
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U need to get a multimeter and test the pins. U should be able the read 12v if u r getting power to the headlight assembly. Also make sure the ground is good.
pin A1-bk/gn is power for turn signal from the flasher relay
pin A2-gy/rd is power for side marker from fuse a6
pin A6-bn is ground for both
Wire codes r for a 2002 harness but dont think the pins ever changed
pin A1-bk/gn is power for turn signal from the flasher relay
pin A2-gy/rd is power for side marker from fuse a6
pin A6-bn is ground for both
Wire codes r for a 2002 harness but dont think the pins ever changed
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U need to get a multimeter and test the pins. U should be able the read 12v if u r getting power to the headlight assembly. Also make sure the ground is good.
pin A1-bk/gn is power for turn signal from the flasher relay
pin A2-gy/rd is power for side marker from fuse a6
pin A6-bn is ground for both
Wire codes r for a 2002 harness but dont think the pins ever changed
pin A1-bk/gn is power for turn signal from the flasher relay
pin A2-gy/rd is power for side marker from fuse a6
pin A6-bn is ground for both
Wire codes r for a 2002 harness but dont think the pins ever changed
Thanks for your guidance on this!
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