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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 03:48 PM
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Tampa.
Any idea how much it's worth as a "roller"?
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 03:52 PM
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Sorry to hear about the misfortune. That's unfortunately the risk we take with these cars.

Man, that's pretty far.

In my searches, they can go from $4k to $7500.

Post up some details about your car.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 03:54 PM
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Ugh, another one. So sorry to hear of this. Such an occurrence would be devastating. To answer your question, as a roller $4-7k seems to be the going rate.

Id give it a few days before you make any decisions, but since someone else in this thread asked if anyone knew of a complete motor for sale, I though I’d offer up the link below (no affiliation, just trying to provide options)...

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...84k-miles.html
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by maalco
I have 96k on her. Did a 40 minute drive home from dinner, stopped at grocery for a quick 5 minutes. No warning or sounds whatsoever. Upon re-start...all hell broke loose.
Engine immediately sounded like metal on metal. So not good.
I'm curious why and how this happens. Warn chain guides and or Chain tensioners? What RPM do you normally drive and what RPM do you shift?
Does low RPM shifting cause added stress on the chains?

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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 04:11 PM
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It's certainly possible, but it's hard to believe there was "no warning or sounds whatsoever".
Happens all the time. I lost the engine in my 2001 Boxster (68K miles) last Thursday in NC on the way to a Porsche event. I was 10 miles from the hotel just cruising along. Heard a muffled noise for a second or two then the dashboard lit up, engine shut down and that was it.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by billh1963
Happens all the time. I lost the engine in my 2001 Boxster (68K miles) last Thursday in NC on the way to a Porsche event. I was 10 miles from the hotel just cruising along. Heard a muffled noise for a second or two then the dashboard lit up, engine shut down and that was it.
What failed?
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 04:31 PM
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Sorry to hear it (again)!

That's the 2nd report of an engine failure in a 996 that I've seen/read in just a few days and it's got me spooked.

Makes me just want to flip the 2000 C4 Cab that I just bought a couple of wks ago Bought it cheap and should still be able to make a few $k on it, even after paying for tax/reg and an oil/filter change, but not if spend any more on it.

These problems have definitely got me thinking . . .
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 04:41 PM
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I made an appointment to get the IMS solution put into my car ($4000 cdn), but these failures are also spooking me. Spend 4 grand to just have something else blow up anyway ... ugh ...
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
What failed?
Dont know, yet. AAAPremiere has a 200 mile towing limit and I was further than that from home when the engine failed.

But, my farm in NC was inside the limit so had it towed there. The car is three hours away from me now and I have commitments this weekend and travel for work next week so it will be a while before I can get the car.

That being said, I suspect IMS. But, it could be any one or a combination of the 31 failure modes.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sgt1372
Sorry to hear it (again)!

That's the 2nd report of an engine failure in a 996 that I've seen/read in just a few days and it's got me spooked.

Makes me just want to flip the 2000 C4 Cab that I just bought a couple of wks ago Bought it cheap and should still be able to make a few $k on it, even after paying for tax/reg and an oil/filter change, but not if spend any more on it.

These problems have definitely got me thinking . . .
I spent months doing my homework and knew the risks before pulling the trigger.
Proper maintenance and checking various parameters with a Durametric will keep you ahead of the ballgame (hopefully). But some cars just fail with no warning at all.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
I made an appointment to get the IMS solution put into my car ($4000 cdn), but these failures are also spooking me. Spend 4 grand to just have something else blow up anyway ... ugh ...
How many miles on the motor? Have you ever dropped your sump?
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
I spent months doing my homework and knew the risks before pulling the trigger.
Proper maintenance and checking various parameters with a Durametric will keep you ahead of the ballgame (hopefully). But some cars just fail with no warning at all.
I did my research too (over the years that I've been looking for one) but it's the "just fail w/no warning at all" even if you've taken proper care of it that's got me spooked.

I've got the money to rebuild the engine if it became necessary but who even wants to worry about that? And we're not even talking about the IMS. We're talking about timing chain failures in the 2 most recent engine blow ups and that really wasn't on my radar; only the IMS was.

So, I will have to give some serious thought to flipping my 996 to avoid the need to worry about it.

My MR2 Spyder has given me 15 years of problem and carefree use and, while it's not a 996, it is a rag top 2 seater that tracks like it's on rails and is a heck of a lot of fun to drive even if it is down on power. The plan was actually to sell the MR2 after I got the 996 but the way it looks, I just might sell the 996 and keep the MR2.

We'll see . . .
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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This is why I've been recommending people buy rollers and have the engine rebuilt the right way.

If you're not a 996 enthusiast AND willing to spend $35k to have it fixed up, you're running a huge gamble.

If you spend the ~$35k, you can have yourself a pretty reliable 911. It will be cheaper in the long run, too.

The lower prices are luring in people.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Prelude Guy
This is why I've been recommending people buy rollers and have the engine rebuilt the right way.

If you're not a 996 enthusiast AND willing to spend $35k to have it fixed up, you're running a huge gamble.

The lower prices are luring in people.
That was exactly my plan when I bought my roller. Long term plan was to send the motor to JR once I eliminated the LS route, then a member messaged me about a good running, low mile factory replacement that was being parted out, so I rolled the dice and so far it's been a blast to drive...I hope it keeps on keeping on as I bring the rest of the car back up to date. Suspension work is next on the list.
I love this car and will keep it for as long as I'm able to drive!
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
How many miles on the motor? Have you ever dropped your sump?
The car has 170 000 km now. The motor was replaced with another 99 mother when the car had 90 000 km. Mileage on the motor when it went in is not known (work was done in Japan). Porsche says to leave it alone, and not do anything until the clutch needs to be done (Lol, my car is an automatic ...). It is not known if the IMS was replaced at that point, but PO said it was. Also not known if the IMS is Porsche or aftermarket.

$4000 cdn is a hefty price to pay. Bump that up to $5500 cdn if I want to do the RMS. RMS is not leaking at all.

I have not had the sump dropped.
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