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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 02:24 AM
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I just did this work:
https://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...sion_Fluid.htm

I have this style of sump cover:


What are the torque values for these screws? For the red and blue arrow I've seen a reference to 29ft/lbs, 30ft/lbs, and 60ft/lbs. Although those might be in reference to the other style of cover which are pre 2002.

I've not seen a reference to the yellow arrows anywhere yet.

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Porsche service manual p.5655 says as of model year 2002 red arrow is ATF drain plug 16 ftlb, blue arrow is control screw 16 ftlb, yellow arrows ATF pan to transmission 6 ftlb, and transmission cross member to body 48 ftlb. Will try to post service manual because you must verify.
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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It doesn't let me upload the full document which appears to be from Porsche. It's a little sketchy. It says for 996.2, and then covers the .1s also, as well as turbos and GTs. And it seems information is repeated over and over making it larger than needed and harder to find what you're looking for.



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Where can I get a PDF copy of the Service Manual (or hard copy)?

Thanks for the screenshots.

Also the transmission pan torque seems to reference this style pan:


Which is screwed into the transmission. In the screenshot I posted the 6 yellow arrows seem to be holding 6 brackets that hold the transmission into place. When I unscrewed them it seemed to be a lot tighter than 6 ft/lbs. In fact some of them felt like I was applying 20+, but that could have been old age I suppose and the first time they were likely removed in 17 years.
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Originally Posted by djbooya
Where can I get a PDF copy of the Service Manual (or hard copy)?

Also the transmission pan torque seems to reference this style pan:

Which is screwed into the transmission. In the screenshot I posted the 6 yellow arrows seem to be holding 6 brackets that hold the transmission into place. When I unscrewed them it seemed to be a lot tighter than 6 ft/lbs. In fact some of them felt like I was applying 20+, but that could have been old age I suppose and the first time they were likely removed in 17 years.
I think the service manual came somewhere from this forum but am not positive, I've looked at a lot of websites over the last few months.

The service manual and other info I've seen says there are two Tip transmissions. The screenshot you posted and the service manual shows the same transmission and it is the later type. The picture of the pan with more than 20 bolts looks like the earlier type. Is that your transmission? If you have the earlier transmission you'll have to obtain a manual and look up the torque numbers, the service manual appears to have different values than the later pan.

When I'm not sure what a fastener should be torqued, I use a torque wrench to take it off! That gives me at least a ball park figure. But no matter what it felt like when removing them, I would go with factory recommendations unless superseded by a newer number.
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I have the style in the 1st picture. However, the reference to the torque numbers of ~6 ft/lbs I thought I saw here:
https://www.renntech.org/tutorials/a...ssion-service/

Step 14 reference 7.5 ft lbs so maybe that's the difference. 7.5 for the older, 6 for the newer.

I didn't have the right sockets yet to use my torque wrench in this location so I did basically hand tightening for the initial fill. Before I button up the bottom I want to get the right torque settings though.

Thanks for the feedback. Do you know if this was the link you were looking for:
http://audipages.com/911/wsm/

I'm getting the larger file thinking it might be the right one for future reference.
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Originally Posted by djbooya
Step 14 reference 7.5 ft lbs so maybe that's the difference. 7.5 for the older, 6 for the newer.

Thanks for the feedback. Do you know if this was the link you were looking for:
http://audipages.com/911/wsm/
I thought I saw in the Porsche service manual 7.5 for the older, but am not positive and didn't want to tell you that if it was wrong.

That link you provided looks familiar, I think that is where I got the service manual. I'm reviewing it and am on page 6000 something, only 2000 more to go.
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