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mattie_k 05-09-2019 12:32 PM

Fuel pump
 
So having taken my 1999 C2 out of winter hibernation finally, I usually try to drive it to burn off the tank of stabilized fuel as low as possible before filling it with fresh fuel. Well the other day as I'm cruising around I start noticing a rattling noise. Fuel gage indicated a bit below half. Sounded like a ball bouncing around in my fuel tank so drove the mile or so home to investigate. Tore the frunk carpets out in case I left a socket or something in there, but found nothing. Found that I could reproduce the sound by rocking the car side to side. Jacked it up and removed the under panels and carefully listened from below while rocking the car. Definitely coming from the tank area. Could it be a faulty fuel sender or is it the pump? No check engine light, no codes. I'm stumped!

808Bill 05-09-2019 12:52 PM

I seem to recall someone having this issue here. A plastic ball comes out of the pump or sending unit. Unless I was dreaming.

mattie_k 05-09-2019 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by 808Bill
I seem to recall someone having this issue here. A plastic ball comes out of the pump or sending unit. Unless I was dreaming.

Well that's a little concerning.

dkraige 05-09-2019 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by mattie_k (Post 15829147)
So having taken my 1999 C2 out of winter hibernation finally, I usually try to drive it to burn off the tank of stabilized fuel as low as possible before filling it with fresh fuel. Well the other day as I'm cruising around I start noticing a rattling noise. Fuel gage indicated a bit below half. Sounded like a ball bouncing around in my fuel tank so drove the mile or so home to investigate. Tore the frunk carpets out in case I left a socket or something in there, but found nothing. Found that I could reproduce the sound by rocking the car side to side. Jacked it up and removed the under panels and carefully listened from below while rocking the car. Definitely coming from the tank area. Could it be a faulty fuel sender or is it the pump? No check engine light, no codes. I'm stumped!

My car's done the same thing as long as I've had it. Sounds like a loose wrench/socket/something rolling around in the tank or trunk area. I only ever hear it when rocking the car back and forth by hand in the garage. Not sure if it's something to do with the tank level sensor, a check ball valve to keep it from dumping gasoline out if the car rolls, or what. Zero symptoms when driving, so I've decided to ignore it.

mattie_k 05-09-2019 05:24 PM

I decided to add some fuel and it definitely is quieter but still there. But glad I'm not the only one hearing this!

Porschetech3 05-11-2019 07:25 PM

There is a plastic ball that resides in the end of the fuel inlet tube (part #11) of this diagram, it has become dislodged.
Dr. h.c. Porschetech3

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cea17da6f2.gif

mattie_k 05-11-2019 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Porschetech3
There is a plastic ball that resides in the end of the fuel inlet tube (part #11) of this diagram, it has become dislodged.
Dr. h.c. Porschetech3

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cea17da6f2.gif

Is that to control fuel leakage in case of a turn over? Should I be worried?

Porschetech3 05-11-2019 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by mattie_k (Post 15834402)
Is that to control fuel leakage in case of a turn over? Should I be worried?

I don't recall how buoyant the ball is, it may help with leakage on overturn, may also help to keep from overfilling and flooding the charcoal canister on fillup. It would be safe to retrieve ball and replace tube so it will function as designed.

Mike Murphy 05-12-2019 12:34 PM

I believe the fuel pump removal procedure - at least to open the top access port - isn’t that hard to do? Hard to see in there maybe, but an LED flashlight an/or an iPhone camera with light might be enough to see what’s in there?

mattie_k 05-12-2019 05:35 PM

Yes I think I will order a new gasket (only a few pesos) and have a peak. I put it out there to see if anyone had experienced a similar thing and could give a definitive answer so that I could just order parts and do it all in one go but alas...I shall investigate further.

dporto 05-13-2019 09:13 AM

"Hard to see in there maybe, but an LED flashlight an/or an iPhone camera with light might be enough to see what’s in there?"

^^ Just don't use a match or a lighter...;)

Mike Murphy 05-14-2019 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by dporto (Post 15836934)
"Hard to see in there maybe, but an LED flashlight an/or an iPhone camera with light might be enough to see what’s in there?"

^^ Just don't use a match or a lighter...;)

And don’t use a vacuum cleaner to suck out the gas!

DanielWilk__ 08-01-2021 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by mattie_k (Post 15835987)
Yes I think I will order a new gasket (only a few pesos) and have a peak. I put it out there to see if anyone had experienced a similar thing and could give a definitive answer so that I could just order parts and do it all in one go but alas...I shall investigate further.

Mattie did you ever find a solution?


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